Jubaeopsis caffra germinaton

[JubaeaMan138]

Any ideas for germinating jubaeopsis caffra got quite a few seeds would like to get them germinating. Also any ideas for pritchardia hildebrandii 

[Sabal Steve]

Can you put me on the list for a Jubeaopsis seedling!?

 

 

[JubaeaMan138]

Of course Steve !!! Need to find out how to germinate these bad boys first

[Josh-O]

3 hours ago, JubaeaMan138 said:

Any ideas for germinating jubaeopsis caffra got quite a few seeds would like to get them germinating. Also any ideas for pritchardia hildebrandii 

If your seeds came from the monster tree from the catamaran they are most likely not going to germinate. I have tried countless time as well ans many othey palm talkers with ZERO sprouts to date over many years of trying. That tree seems to put out bad seed  

[JubaeaMan138]

2 of the seeds were germinated already straight on the ground already came with short roots :/

[JubaeaMan138]

Notice the root?

[Josh-O]

5 hours ago, JubaeaMan138 said:

Notice the root?

from the catamaran???

[Pal Meir]

I don’t have own experience with this species, but I would like to contribute the following (useful?) remarks: Jubaeopsis has remote germination (in contrast to Jubaea). The soil mix should have a fast drainage (e.g. coarse sand with pine bark), but must not dry out. – "It is, however, known that for some reason seeds do not germinate easily, and in experimental plantings in this country [i.e. South Africa] germination rates have always been low.“ (Palmpedia)

[Flow]

You could also crack the seeds, or better saw them open because cracking is almost impossible. I did that after only 1/10 seeds germinated for me. After sawing them open four more germinated within a week. As Pal said they are remote germinators and the eophyll can take a fairly long time to emerge.

Edited December 4, 2015 by Flow

[JubaeaMan138]

Yes josh they Are from m the catamaran 

[Pando]

Josh is probably already on the freeway going south at a high rate of speed...

[Josh-O]

10 minutes ago, Pando said:

Josh is probably already on the freeway going south at a high rate of speed...

Pando-I like it 

I now have 4 flowers and 2 more spathes are starting to emerge. 

I got a marginal crop of seed last year and this year it looks very promising???

 

 

[JubaeaMan138]

Believe it or not around the backside of the jubaeopsis there was several seeds on the ground that were rooted into the ground with there strap leaves already. But was told by grounds keepers I could not be scavenging haha and that the seeds were already spoken for haha. 

[JubaeaMan138]

What do U think josh? Think this tree maybe possibly producing good seeds now?

Edited December 4, 2015 by JubaeaMan138
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[JubaeaMan138]

What do U think josh? Think this tree maybe possibly producing good seeds now?

[Tyrone]

I've had success with this species by placing them so that they are half buried in a free draining mix in a community pot covered with 2 inches of spaghnum moss, put the pot inside a plastic bag and left in my tin shed where they heat up during the day and cool down at night. I got 30 seeds about 6 weeks ago and have already potted up two into individual pots and at last check a few days ago another two have popped up.

[Josh-O]

21 hours ago, JubaeaMan138 said:

What do U think josh? Think this tree maybe possibly producing good seeds now?

I hope it is. It's long over due.

Huh? The last Time I was there they actually gave me permission to scrounge for seed. They must of have has a nice bone in their body that day?

I usually just walk up and grab a bunch before they say I cant

[Josh-O]

7 hours ago, Tyrone said:

I've had success with this species by placing them so that they are half buried in a free draining mix in a community pot covered with 2 inches of spaghnum moss, put the pot inside a plastic bag and left in my tin shed where they heat up during the day and cool down at night. I got 30 seeds about 6 weeks ago and have already potted up two into individual pots and at last check a few days ago another two have popped up.

interesting Technic. I'll have to try that on my next seed batch

[JubaeaMan138]

So if I decide on the delidding process crack the hole shell off the seed and were does it germinate from similar to Jubaea chilensis Ive germinated over 100 Jubaea chilensis just from cracking the shell never does the sanding technique to expose the embryo were does the embryo come out on the shell? 

[Tyrone]

There are three eyes on the shell. Two are small, one considerably bigger. The bigger eye has the embryo underneath. I place that big eye at soil level when I half bury them. It's then easy for it to pop out and head down straight into the mix.

[JubaeaMan138]

Delidding is by far a great technique I just de lidded them on a belt sander and the root embryo root is already protruding out should of done this a long time ago

[Josh-O]

keep us posted

[TimJ]

I had good success with RPS seeds earlier in the year. Treated them like Jubaea, half burried in sphagnum moss and perlite 23c ish at night and 30c ish in day. Just give the root plenty of room they are massive! 

[JubaeaMan138]

Wow those are intense roots so awesome hopefully I get mine sowed this week I'm still soaking them. Can't wait to get them started. Has anyone every germinated in water I have heard of people germinating date palms in straight water is that possible? 

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

I picked up some California seed and just noticed that two have germinated after 3 weeks.  Hopefully more will follow.

[Sabal Steve]

They germinate a lot like Borassus.  I had a bunch pop, but the roots quickly rotted.

[Sabal Steve]

On December 12, 2015 4:15:04 PM, JubaeaMan138 said:

Wow those are intense roots so awesome hopefully I get mine sowed this week I'm still soaking them. Can't wait to get them started. Has anyone every germinated in water I have heard of people germinating date palms in straight water is that possible? 

I've inadvertently done this with phoenix seeds, but those are notoriously easy germinators.

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

I've had Trithrinax campestris, CIDP, W. Filifera and a few cycads germinate when hydrating or rehydrating.

[Zeeth]

On 12/12/2015, 2:09:56, TimJ said:

I had good success with RPS seeds earlier in the year. Treated them like Jubaea, half burried in sphagnum moss and perlite 23c ish at night and 30c ish in day. Just give the root plenty of room they are massive! 

This was a helpful picture for me when I was germinating mine. Here's a progression of my seeds, which came from the Catamaran Jubaeopsis:

[tim_brissy_13]

Guys I'm germinating A batch of Jubaeopsis seeds at the moment. Within a month 5/11 had germinated and now a 6th has after 2 months (I used bottom heat at around 32C with baggies of vermiculite/sphagnum moss 50:50).

I've planted 5 of the germinated seeds in pots with the seed only half covered on top. My question: being remote germinators, should I prop the seeds up above soil level like in the photo above or should they be fine? There's been no above ground growth although I've noticed already a tap root has made its way through a drain hole of a 140mm pot.

[Phoenikakias]

Prop'em up! The natural way should happen only in their natural enviroment, in a pot on the other hand, it has no meaning than putting  more weight to the pot and increasing the risk of basal rot. Even if you suceed in the pot with growing point buried, all this soil by the time of transplant will crumble apart.

[Zeeth]

9 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Guys I'm germinating A batch of Jubaeopsis seeds at the moment. Within a month 5/11 had germinated and now a 6th has after 2 months (I used bottom heat at around 32C with baggies of vermiculite/sphagnum moss 50:50).

I've planted 5 of the germinated seeds in pots with the seed only half covered on top. My question: being remote germinators, should I prop the seeds up above soil level like in the photo above or should they be fine? There's been no above ground growth although I've noticed already a tap root has made its way through a drain hole of a 140mm pot.

In my fourth picture you can see how deep the sinker goes before sending out the actual root. It's been between 11-14 cm on most of mine, so you're probably better off propping the seed up, as otherwise you won't have much room for the roots to grow.

[Nico94]

After one year in the bag, à first seed has germinated. Four left. 

[Nico94]

My Jubaeopsis caffra today.

 

[Nico94]

Hi. 

I received 10 Jubaeopsis caffra seeds from South of Africa. I sawed them and I hope thé germination will be faster. 

Nicolas 

[elandybarr]

@Nico94 Did you get them from Lifestyle Seeds? I was thinking to order from them.  Any success on the germination?

[WaianaeCrider]

Mine is 17 years in the ground.  Still no flowers.  Grrrr

[Nico94]

il y a 1 heure, elandybarr a dit :

@Nico94 Les avez-vous achetés chez Lifestyle Seeds ? Je pensais commander chez eux. Un succès sur la germination ?

 

Edited September 29, 2022 by Nico94

[Nico94]

Yes I bought them from them. They took two months to be delivered.
They have been sown for three weeks.