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New Trachycarpus princeps

Ben in Norcal

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Ben in Norcal

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Pretty psyched about today's new acquisition...a Trachycarpus princeps, at a size you don't usually see them (at least up here.) Went in the ground in one of my Trachy groves already!

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Thanks to Jason Dewees over at Flora Grubb for bringing this one in for me!

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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Pete in Paradise Hills

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sweet! Mine is only a seedling...

Paradise Hills, 4 miles inland, south facing slope in the back, north facing yard in the front

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WoW!

Get ata here!

When did he plant those...1900s?

Bought mine from Matt SD early last year

and only 4 leaves since.

Ben I see you got naners there as well among your palms.

I did the same but wondering how Im going to thin the

mats with the palms nearby. Fruited for you yet?

Bravo and great score!

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Pete in Paradise Hills

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I have a bunch of seedlings too, but could not resist this guy!

It's a beauty.

Paradise Hills, 4 miles inland, south facing slope in the back, north facing yard in the front

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Rusty on Pine Is.

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A wonderful palm, the genus that i started with and still fond of. The T. princeps is killer...nice garden, too!

Rusty Bell

Pine Island - the Ex-Pat part of Lee County, Fl , USA

Zone 10b, life in the subs!...except when it isn't....

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When did he plant those...1900s?

Bought mine from Matt SD early last year

and only 4 leaves since.

Ben I see you got naners there as well among your palms.

I did the same but wondering how Im going to thin the

mats with the palms nearby. Fruited for you yet?

Bravo and great score!

I also got seedlings from Matt in SD! Bananas have not fruited yet...maybe this year??

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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Great acquisition, Ben! Kudos to Jason! How old is you new princeps?

Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

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Great acquisition, Ben! Kudos to Jason! How old is you new princeps?

I don't know, actually, Jim. Good question, I should ask Jason. BTW - he has one more. :winkie:

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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Fabulous specimen Ben !

Jason Dewees is the man !

Old Beach ,Hobart
Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
Cool Maritime climate

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Very nice! So you keep them in the pots?

Larry Shone in wet and sunny north-east England!  Zone9 ish

Tie two fish together and though they have two tails they cannot swim <>< ><>

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Pretty psyched about today's new acquisition...a Trachycarpus princeps, at a size you don't usually see them (at least up here.) Went in the ground in one of my Trachy groves already!

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Thanks to Jason Dewees over at Flora Grubb for bringing this one in for me!

Nice garden, Ben. Which Cycad are you growing in the last picture? An Encephalartos?

Kind regards,

Wim.

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A work in progress, Wim! You can actually see a small Macrozamia moorei on the very far right of that last picture, but I believe what you are noticing is an Encephalartos whitelockii. Great grower in my climate and gives that "Jurassic" look!

Thank you for all the kind comments, everyone!

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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Nice choice! I unsuccessfully tried to germinate some seeds once. You're so lucky!

Los Angeles, CA and Myrtle Beach, SC.

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Heard back from Jason, and he doesn't know an exact age for the T. princeps he got in - but at least 7 years old he says.

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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Thanks Ben for posting, snagged the other one from Jason last week. It is gorgeous! I am so excited. My front bed gets coldest. Therefore, most of my plants are under my front eaves, which stretches out 3'. I just put in three

L. Hoenhi, and five L. Wed, from Florabunda this Spring. Now, if I can figure out out pics on I Phone, or if I can get some help, my front B. Moorei, is thriving- so exciting. It is further out, loves the filtered light. I have been babying this one for two years.

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Ben, great score!!

I would have done the same thing if I came across a big fatty like yours.

happy growing bro!!

How's that big 15 gal D. Ambo I shipped you doing?

any pic's??

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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Ben in Norcal

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Thanks Josh! 15g Ambo is doing well...slow. I suspect it's taking time to get its feet down...

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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Ben, once it does they grow super fast.

I'm getting ready to plant a monster Ambo in My up and coming Vista garden. Pic's will come later..

Funny side note. I have a bunch of nice 5 gal T. princeps all grown from seed here in Ca......I was at a nursery a few months ago and score a 7' tall trunking monster for 45.00 and now have overlooked all the 5 gals I have in stock..lol

The guy had no Idea what it was.

I love the fact you posted a thread about yours..

cheers.

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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Ben, with your knowledge of seedlings, does this look like a princeps to you? I got it in a mixed batch of Licuala and Garry (coldplant.com) thinks it might be either a Trachy princeps or a tesan. Not sure if it's old enough to tell though...

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Shimoda, Japan, Lat: 36.6N, Long: 138.8

Zone 9B (kinda, sorta), Pacific Coast, 1Km inland, 75M above sea level
Coldest lows (Jan): 2-5C (35-41F), Hottest highs (Aug): 32-33C (87-91F)

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Ben, with your knowledge of seedlings, does this look like a princeps to you? I got it in a mixed batch of Licuala and Garry (coldplant.com) thinks it might be either a Trachy princeps or a tesan. Not sure if it's old enough to tell though...

For comparison, this was a seedling of mine, almost 2 years after germination:

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My photos at flickr: flickr.com/photos/palmeir/albums

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Ben, with your knowledge of seedlings, does this look like a princeps to you? I got it in a mixed batch of Licuala and Garry (coldplant.com) thinks it might be either a Trachy princeps or a tesan. Not sure if it's old enough to tell though...

JT

John, what do the undersides of the leaves look like? Mine showed silver coloration very early.

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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if it's T. Princepts they show color under the leafs even as little seedlings.

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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Ben, with your knowledge of seedlings, does this look like a princeps to you? I got it in a mixed batch of Licuala and Garry (coldplant.com) thinks it might be either a Trachy princeps or a tesan. Not sure if it's old enough to tell though...

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JT

That looks like a Tesan,Princeps has a pretty

direct route to divided leaves,usually they will

show color on that first divided fan.

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Here are some Tesan...the palm in the bigger pot(right)is a standard Fortunei.

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Ben, with your knowledge of seedlings, does this look like a princeps to you? I got it in a mixed batch of Licuala and Garry (coldplant.com) thinks it might be either a Trachy princeps or a tesan. Not sure if it's old enough to tell though...

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JT

That looks like a Tesan,Princeps has a pretty

direct route to divided leaves,usually they will

show color on that first divided fan.

Here are some Tesan...the palm in the bigger pot(right)is a standard Fortunei.

@Jimhardy: Do you mean with "standard Fortunei" this pink marked plant???

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This seedling doesn’t look to me like a T. fortunei at all.

My photos at flickr: flickr.com/photos/palmeir/albums

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Pal, I've seen thousands of T. Fortunei seedlings at many growing grounds here in California and it looks just like a good 'ol fortunei

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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Pal Meir

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Pal, I've seen thousands of T. Fortunei seedlings at many growing grounds here in California and it looks just like a good 'ol fortunei

Oh really? Sorry! The "normal" T. fortunei which I got here in Germany in the 1970s and grew up from seed looked more like the L. fortunei "tesan" in the photo. They didn’t have so elongated juvenile leaves.

My photos at flickr: flickr.com/photos/palmeir/albums

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This also a favourite of mine! Ben, your princeps is a very nice specimen!

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Ben in Norcal

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Thank you Alberto! It's a nice one because it is so bullet proof here!

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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I like how dense the Tesan are with there wide strap leaves.

Yea,thats a Fortunei there all righty.

Ben

Good luck with your Princeps,it is already

a specimen plant with its nice shape.

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Ben, thanks for posting the photos and I appreciate the mention! Very nice garden you've got going!

Jason Dewees

Inner Sunset District

San Francisco, California

Sunset zone 17

USDA zone 10a

21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April

Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.

Summer: 67F/55F | 19C/12C

Winter: 56F/44F | 13C/6C

40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C

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Ben, thanks for posting the photos and I appreciate the mention! Very nice garden you've got going!

Thanks Jason! Keep me (and us) informed on new and unique stuff you are bringing in!

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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