butia jubaea hybrid questions

[NorthFlpalmguy]

1) Are these butia/jubaea hybrids fairly common in Florida?

2) Do curved fronds not occur on some "pure" Butias? I say Butias only as we have a "mutt" mix of Butias I suspect. (Odorata)

The reason I ask these questions are quite a number of years ago I was collecting seeds from what I thought was an "odd" Butia capitata in Lake City, Florida. Huge trunk, straighter than most, and fairly clean for a neglected old palm of this species and huge seeds. I wish I had a picture of it now but I am guessing it was relocated when the park received was re-landscaped years later. I noticed the hooks on some of these fronds and the few palms I have left nearly all have the twisted fronds. I will get pics of these up when I return home.

[NorthFlpalmguy]

Here was an easier one to get to. You can see even as a 7G palm they are twisted as can be.

[Brad Mondel]

I've heard about a few down there in Florida. However It's probably not a common occurrence because Jubaea won't survive there due to the humidity.

[NorthFlpalmguy]

I've heard about a few down there in Florida. However It's probably not a common occurrence because Jubaea won't survive there due to the humidity.

I agree but just haven't heard of the twisting fronds on normal Butia odorata before. I imagine the longer-term hybrid to survive the humidity were lighter on Jubaea genetics, maybe F2s possibly.

[Brad Mondel]

Butias are variable. I've seen many with twisted fronds. I actually have one like that planted at my mothers house.

Edited August 7, 2015 by ArchAngeL01