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Just wanted to share my little bit of experience with these palmtrees. The R. Oleracea seems to be waaaayyyy faster grower than the R. Regia. Am I right? This is the battle between the Royals.

I've only been growing these for a year so I hope others will share some info and pictures please. I'll post what I have now, and as they keep growing I'll keep sharing.

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I bought these from Paul on ebay. I was supposed to receive my shipment on a Friday. The post office kept it over the weekend and I didn't get it till Monday evening. Only one palm had noticeable stress damage - the Puerto Rican Royal!

The little guys are all Ravenea Glaucas. The 2 in the black containers are Regias and the one in the green container to the right is the Oleracea. The one in the left green container is the Puerto Rican royal.

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Two months later and they are doing well except the Rican. Its alive but just not doing anything! At this point the ollie is already looking better than the rest and looking pretty'er too. She's right in the middle on the second pic.

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Here's my ollie a year later looking perfect after our mild winter. She stopped pushing growth on top during the cold but thats because she was too busy growing roots and getting thick.

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And here is the Cuban! The second Cuban didn't make it. She had a tough life. Got eaten by my pitbull and managed to survive and keep growing. But when I put them in the ground the rootball fell apart and it was a slow death from then on.

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I hear ollies are more cold sensitive than the rest. And that they will yellow out with the cold. This is how yellow mine got. Yeah she has a nice warm place in my yard but we did have some weather under freezing and it showed on some of my other Big Cuban Royals.

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Here's my biggest healthiest looking Cuban after our few nights of cold. Just cosmetics but I didn't expect this to happen to my biggest. I guess its her location because the other 4 big ones didn't get burned like this.

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Mr. Lopez:

You're not messing around!

Roystoneas will rock the desert. I saw one off Route 111 near Indio about 20 years ago (on the south side of the road, i.e., to the left as you drive to the Salton sea, more or less.)

Most crownshafted palms don't take the high heat well, but Roystoneas are an exception. They need a lot of water, especially ollies.

Ollies are really tender, I'm afraid. I had one that grew to about 25 feet tall in 4 years, with about 5-6 feet of trunk and it died in the big freeze of 2007. My place saw temps of 27 F for four straight nights. (I've since planted two more. :interesting: )

Regia seems to be the best all-purpose royal. They take temps into the mid-20s F with no problem, if they're established in the ground for a few years. Babies in pots should be protected.

Hmm. Sounds like the broquies gave you bad luck. You might want to try some more. PM me for some sources you can buy from.

If they really won't make it in the desert, that's useful information.

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Here's my biggest regia. Everyone falls in love. It's been in the ground since October of 2004, planted as a baby like yours. (It purrs when I scratch its trunk! :))

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Hey DoomsDave, I was hoping you would show your Royals on this thread. I was just looking through some old threads on here. I just saw your Royal that died in 2007 from the cold (if that happened to me I would probably cry). Just saying.

Also seems like some don't think ollies can make it in California. And just going through old threads made me wonder if I even have the real deal "Roystonea Oleracea". How can I positively ID her? All I really know for sure is that it looked way different than the Cubans and Ricans.

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Here's my biggest regia. Everyone falls in love. It's been in the ground since October of 2004, planted as a baby like yours. (It purrs when I scratch its trunk! :))

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Beautiful! Ill share some more pics of Royals in my area to encourage others to do so too.

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This is the reason for my obsession. This grower has many rare stuff in his garden. Maybe I'll ask him if I can show off his stuff on here sometime.post-9726-0-25328700-1424665090_thumb.jp

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Whoa!

That's yours? (Ran screaming down the private road in the rain.)

(Back again.)

EDIT: Okay, got yours mixed up with the ones in Palm Springs.

The one in PS looks like a regia. Take a few close up shots of the leaves and trunk.

Regias have plumose leaves and gray trunk.

Ollies aren't plumose with a brown trunk.

Yours, it's harder to tell. Get some closeup pics of the leaves. With the heat you have, they roar like rockets. Ollies are twice as fast as regias, in my experience.

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Dave, I want my palms to purr when I scratch them.. any pointers..? :mrlooney:

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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Lol! No DoomsDave those aren't mine. I wish!

Mine are all just babies. My Biggest ones came in 15g a year ago and put them in the ground as soon as they came off the truck. They were brought from SD.post-9726-0-89611600-1424666312_thumb.jp

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The last two for the Royals in the Palm Springs area. If I find more ill post but I doubt there will be anymore big ones. I drive throughout the whole valley cleaning pools thats why I have all these pictures.

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These are not from here but they are some real beauties aren't they? Im sure most of you will recognize these!

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Those look like Regias. Very nice!

Where, exactly, are they?

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Ollie at the zoo??? That's what the sign says.

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Could be an ollie.

It lacks the bulges of regias, though the trunk is gray.

Do you have closeups of the crown and leaves?

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These are not from here but they are some real beauties aren't they? Im sure most of you will recognize these!attachicon.gifIMG_2015022218632.jpg

Those look like Regias. Very nice!

Where, exactly, are they?

They are at the San Diego Zoo Dave.

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Ollie at the zoo??? That's what the sign says.attachicon.gifIMG_201502223370.jpgattachicon.gifIMG_2015022248219.jpg

Could be an ollie.

It lacks the bulges of regias, though the trunk is gray.

Do you have closeups of the crown and leaves?

I do not have any close up pics. Its very tall and hard to get a good pic. I was going through some old pictures last nite and noticed the sign down there said "Roystonea Oleracea" "Caribbean Royal" so I had to post.

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Ollie at the zoo??? That's what the sign says.attachicon.gifIMG_201502223370.jpgattachicon.gifIMG_2015022248219.jpg

Could be an ollie.

It lacks the bulges of regias, though the trunk is gray.

Do you have closeups of the crown and leaves?

I do not have any close up pics. Its very tall and hard to get a good pic. I was going through some old pictures last nite and noticed the sign down there said "Roystonea Oleracea" "Caribbean Royal" so I had to post.

If you can get there again, try to get a close up of the leaves. Royal Palm pornography is a great reason to have a zoom lense . . . . . :)

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Definitely not :) R. oleracea is not plumose, only has leaflets arranged in one plane

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Does this one look like an ollie?attachicon.gifIMG_20150223322.jpgattachicon.gifIMG_2015022352815.jpg

That looks more like a borenquenia, including mine. Note the plumose leaves and brown trunk. That Borquie looks a bit unhappy, I think because it's not getting as much sun as it would like. They like full sun, though they might appreciate a bit of shelter in the desert.

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R. oleracea is definitely one of the easiest royals to ID when you see the leaves, but I know that people sell stuff as them that isn't. I got "R. oleracea" seeds in a trade a while back but the leaves are too plumose to be R. oleracea. It grows about twice as fast as my R. regia though so I have no clue what species it is.

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Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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Will some of you guys be generous enough to share some Oleracea pics? It would be greatly appreciated and would help this thread out a bunch. Thanks.

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Here's my bouncing baby borquie

It's about 20 feet tall in my front yard, with about 8 feet of clear trunk.

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