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Matt in SD's before & after photos prompted me to look at some of my older digital photos. My digital camera was a gift from our son & daughter in early 2004, so that's when I began taking digital. Took quite a few of the garden on 10 April 2004, so decided to go back and take some of those exact views today. Here's the area right outside our house (the house is on the left). Three Clinostigma samoense in the middle, with two smaller Corypha umbraculifera in front of them. Photo taken 10 Apr 04.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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Same view today, 17 Mar 2007. Not quite three years later.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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And looking just a little bit to the left: Dypsis lastelliana just to the right of the bridge (this palm is all the way to the left in Post#1 and #2), and a Bismarckia nobilis to the left of the bridge. Neither of these palms particular fast growing. This photo: 10 Apr 2004.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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And same view today, 17 Mar 2007

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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Our main entrance from Malama Street. A couple of the "White Dypsis" right behind the rockwall, and a few Ravenea rivularis behind them (=to the right). Photo: 10 Apr 2004

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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Same view today, 17 Mar 2007. The White Dypsis is a pretty slow grower, but the Raveneas of course have grown quite a bit.

Expecting neighbors here in a few minutes for a garden tour, but I'll be posting more photos later today.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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That lastelliana goes slow don't it, but it looks magnifico, way better than leptos.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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I am green with envy....and it's St. Patrick's Day.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

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Thanks guys! And yes, Wal, I agree - the lastalliena is a more impressive palm compared to leptocheilos, but also slower. Have to head in to Hilo in a minute, but time to post two more photos. Again, this was taken on 10 Apr 2004. Small palm in the foreground: Dypsis Orange crush, palms on the right: Dypsis sp. bejofa.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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And exact same view today, 17 Mar 2007.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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You certainly weren't joking when you said the Clinostigma samoense were fast.

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Corey Lucas-Divers

Dorset, UK

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Zac and Corey - thanks! Yes, the Clinostigmas are indeed fast! Time for a few more photos, then we have to head over to a neighbor for a party. Today has been pretty packed with activities, with two garden tours...

Here's another shot with the group of Dypsis sp. bejofa. There's a row of Dypsis lutescens in the background, to the left, and of course handful of Bismarckia to the right.

Photo taken 10 Apr 2004

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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Bo - What phenominal growth! Absolutely spectacular.

Also I really like how you did the driveways and the rock walls. Just beautiful! :)

Scott

San Fernando Valley, California

Sunset Climate Zone 18

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And the same view today, 17 Mar 2007. The row of D. lutescens in the background is not quite visible and the Bismarckias are just barely visible behind the D. sp. bejofa.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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Metroxylon amicarum on the left and a group of Cyrtostachys renda. 10 Apr 2004

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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And the same view today, 17 Mar 2007. A few Dypsis lanceolata on the left are just barely visible.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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And the last pair for today. A couple of Clinostigma samoense with a rockwall for backdrop. 10 Apr 2004.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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Zac,

Thanks! And I hope to see you here in Hawaii soon!

Scott,

A Tongan guy who lives in Hilo has been building our rockwalls for the last ten years, and he has also over the last couple of years built a few rockwalls for other palm society members in the general area. He's very good, and he's been getting better over the years!

And in case you clicked on this thread over the last 10 minutes you may have noticed some strange things with the photos. I got them mixed up, so had to delete a few, and replace them with the correct ones...

Anyway, here's the rockwall with the Clinostigmas this morning, 17 Mar 2007.

Bo-Göran

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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As a point of reference I should mention that the rockwall above is 12 ft tall.

Scott,

just realized I didn't answer your question about our driveways. Initially, they were just red cinder, and we had them paved about 4-5 years ago (asphalt). Unfortunately, some palms with vigorous roots, specifically Roystoneas, Clinostigmas and Cocos nucifera are messing up the blacktop...

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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Before is big.  After is bigger.  Very nice.

Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA

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Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA

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Thanks Ray! Had one more photo which I took earlier today (and we just got back from the St Patrick's Day party!). This is out in the street, on the corner of Malama Street and Kumakahi Street. All the palms were planted in Sep/Oct 2001, and this photo was taken on 10 Apr 2004. The Clinostigma samoense, when planted two and a half years earlier, were about 5 ft tall.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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And this one is of course the photo I took today, 17 Mar 2007! The palms on the left are all Dypsis lutescens, about 60 of them, planted 3 ft apart. Most not visible in this photo.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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All that i can see is green cover ! great work !  :)

and should be preety relaxing to walk around that garden,

perticularly after a gentle shower.. :)

Thanks for the coverage of your neat looking garden.

Love,

Kris  :)

love conquers all..

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Bo,

What a ground, what a place, what a palms .... and what a growth from different palms! Thanks for sharing this pics, i like them ! :)

Robbin

Southwest

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Another WOWSER!  BGL, you have a fairytale place there!   Keep posting more photos!

C from NC

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Bone dry summers, wet winters, 2-3 days ea. winter in low teens.

Siler City, NC

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Robbin and Cindy,

Thanks a lot! It's 4 a.m. here right now, and I'm heading out in a few minutes for a marathon in Hilo but if I'm not too pooped by the time I get back, I'll take some more 'after' photos and post. I still have a few more 'before' photos from 2004.

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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I was wondering why you were up so early when I saw your post!  Let us know how you do --

Do you have any photos of your lot when first purchased?  That would be interesting too --

 San Francisco Bay Area, California

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Kathy,

Yes, I like to have plenty of time, no matter when I get up, so even though we had to leave at 4:15 this morning, I wanted to have a couple of cups of coffee, check my e-mails, check the Forum, etc. But I did take a well deserved 45 min. nap after we returned home! :D

I'll put the marathon details in a thread in the Palapa. Thanks for asking!

And I do have quite a few photos from when we bought the property, but I'll have to go thru the somewhat silly approach of taking a photo of a photo (I'm definitely going to check into a scanner!). I don't mind doing that, but the quality is obviously less than optimal. Since I feel I deserve to do whatever I feel like doing for the rest of the day, I'll see what I can come up with!

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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Very impressive growth in such little time Bo. I couldn't even imagine how quickly tropical bamboo would jump in your climate.

Cincinnati, Ohio USA & Mindo, Ecuador

 

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Jake,

Thanks! And yes, bamboo literally grows faster than the weeds here. But we don't have any (bamboo that is!! We have plenty of weeds.. :( ).

Bo-Göran

Took some more shots, so I'll be posting a bunch of before and after. First the more recent ones, and then we'll get to the ancient ones that Kathy asked about...

This is a group of Dypsis carlsmithii on 10 Apr 2004. Row of Dypsis lutescens in the background. Malama Street is on the other side of those palms.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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And the same view today, 18 Mar 2007.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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Group of Dypsis decipiens with a few Beccariophoenix 'no windows' in the foreground and the Bismarckia group in the background (shown in an earlier post). A small Dypsis sp. bejofa on the extreme right.

10 Apr 2004.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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This was a tough one to recreate with the exact same parameters, because I simply couldn't see the ohi'a tree that's visible on the extreme right in the photo above. So this is as good as it gets!

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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A group of Clinostigma samoense in the background, and a row of Areca vestiaria behind them. Most of the smaller palms in front of the Clinostigmas are Lemurophoenix. These palms do NOT like a full sun exposure when they're small (less than 5G size) and they don't really accept it until they get up to about 5-6 ft. I lost a few 1G size because of this.

Photo: 10 Apr 2004

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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The cycad in the foreground is an Encepahlartos laurentianus, planted in July 2003 but it was very small at the time. It's in the center of the photo (the 2004 photo I mean), JUST above (beyond) the pavement. And the slender palm immediately to its left in the photo above is a Cyrtostachys sp.

Photo taken today, 18 Mar 2007

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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And, in a different part of the garden. Two Metroxylon warburgiii on the left, and a grove of Carpoxylon macrospermum on the left.

10 Apr 2004

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