Reverse xButyagrus: Queen x Butia eriospatha

[Alberto]

After aparent succes in crossing S. romanzoffiana with Parajubaea sunkha, (at least the female flowers have not all fallen from the inflorescence, and i hope for a at least 300 fruits) Now I´ll try to cross the Paraná tableland Syagrus romanzoffiana with Butia eriospatha. I found this not very tall queen (a little stunted because it was planted too deep) in my uncles garden. This makes easier to work with. The pollen I got from an inflorescence of a beautifull Butia with very wide long leaflets;

The reverse cross probably will look different from a regular xButyagrus

Sebastião the gardener is helping me, but since he has some height fear, I pollinated the other tall queen (Queen X Parajubaea), but the smaller one was not a problem for him.

(I couldn´t upload the pic)

[Alicehunter2000]

Hope you are successful. ....with every hybridization more knowledge is gained as to what is both possible as well as to what is preferable for particular environments. Will be nice to see pictures.

[Josh-O]

good luck and keep us posted Alberto!!

[Tropicdoc]

You are a trailblazer Alberto...... A legend in your own time.

[palmsrgreat]

Very interesting. I will enjoy following this as time goes. Thanks for your work.

[Alberto]

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[Alberto]

The pollen donnor, a Butia eriospatha with fat trunk, full crown and "full" frond due to the wide leaflets

[Alberto]

The "mother palm" is a S. romanzoffianama , somewhat stunted because it was planted to deep, some years ago, like most of this queens.

You can see the queen with a bag on the already pollinated inflorescence today,

[NorthFlpalmguy]

Very interesting doing the reverse. I have heard rumors it was just too hard and then I have heard it would not work but I have never seen much evidence of anyone actually trying it. Good luck!

[Alberto]

Today it´s the third day that I´m pollenizing the inflorescence shaking a big plastic bag on the inflorescence. After that the whole infl. is bagged again with double bags that let aeration too the inflorescence. Fingers crossed ! :-)

[Alicehunter2000]

I'm excited to see what you get......don't think this cross has been tried enough to really get a feel for the look or cold hardiness of the resulting offspring. The general consensus I've heard is that the hybrid produces palms that have about the same hardiness as a regular queen. However, so few have been developed that it is safe to assume that this conclusion is premature. It would be nice to develop a mule that is even more queen-like and also has some degree of increased hardiness. BxSxS might also be another way to accomplish this. Alberto, keep us informed and good luck.

[edbrown_III]

its hard --- I had a scaffold but the palms just had too many flowers to work with --- these had somelthing like 300 rachillae --- plus I am heavy and clumsy --- I might give it lashe again but yu basically have to limit it to just a handfull of rachillae on yur tree and practice the technique. just hope your pollen is compatible with your target tree. I think I will just order some from Alberto as the only reason I did some of this as there werent any sources of seeds at the time.

Best regards

Ed

[Alberto]

Bummer!

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/44560-bad-news/

[Josh-O]

Alberto, Don't give up..I'm hopeful you can pull it off.