Jump to content
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT LOGGING IN ×
  • WELCOME GUEST

    It looks as if you are viewing PalmTalk as an unregistered Guest.

    Please consider registering so as to take better advantage of our vast knowledge base and friendly community.  By registering you will gain access to many features - among them are our powerful Search feature, the ability to Private Message other Users, and be able to post and/or answer questions from all over the world. It is completely free, no “catches,” and you will have complete control over how you wish to use this site.

    PalmTalk is sponsored by the International Palm Society. - an organization dedicated to learning everything about and enjoying palm trees (and their companion plants) while conserving endangered palm species and habitat worldwide. Please take the time to know us all better and register.

    guest Renda04.jpg

Heat vs Light, what's cheaper?


Tropicdoc

Recommended Posts

On another thread, I had brought up the question....... What's more cost effective: Heat a greenhouse through the winter, or bring plants indoors and provide light. I use the former. My greenhouses are cheap, pop-ups, so they are not insulated very well. As I transition to more 9b and 9a plants, though, I only run heat on nights that are expected to drop below freezing (average 5 per year). On sunny days, the greenhouse can get into the 90s in the middle of winter without supplemental heat. That gets things growing nicely. A bonus is the humidity generated in there.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This is a really interesting question.

The problem with keeping plants in a house in a cold climate is that it's too dry in the winter for many, except cacti, without creating a microclimate for them. Do that wrong though, and you might mess up house furnishings possibly severely. (Water on the end tables, anyone? Angry end table owner, anyone? Intensive care, anyone?)

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The cheapest is to bring the plants inside the house -- but not give them extra light... But I think -- and this is a pure unscientific speculation -- that a greenhouse is best. For one thing a house can be very dry inside. And the dryness can be very hard on plants even if they are getting enough light. And then there is the question of light. Is the supplemental light inside a house even close to providing as much light as they will get in a greenhouse?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This is a really interesting question.

The problem with keeping plants in a house in a cold climate is that it's too dry in the winter for many, except cacti, without creating a microclimate for them. Do that wrong though, and you might mess up house furnishings possibly severely. (Water on the end tables, anyone? Angry end table owner, anyone? Intensive care, anyone?)

Ooooohhhh the wife hates plants on end tables, she is convinced I'll ruin them all for that reason.

Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Won't spritzing the plants daily be enough to keep off the debilitating dryness? I don't know the scientific process of absorption, but I'm hoping it works....

Jt

Shimoda, Japan, Lat: 36.6N, Long: 138.8

Zone 9B (kinda, sorta), Pacific Coast, 1Km inland, 75M above sea level
Coldest lows (Jan): 2-5C (35-41F), Hottest highs (Aug): 32-33C (87-91F)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I've done more long term damage by misting palms when inside. I'm in a cold climate state and use a heat pump for heating when temps are over 18F and with that kind of heat it doesn't dry out the house and I can keep humidity at a max of 45%. My tropicals, and more humidity loving palms are grouped together and a heated vaporizer adds humidity to that specific area.

It takes a while since I have so many palms but once every two weeks I take a wet microfiber cloth and wipe down every leaf and frond. I know it adds a measure of humidity to the frond without leaving fungus promoting tiny droplets off the fronds. I know too that its removing house dust on the leaves as well keeping any spider mites or other pests at bay. Good time too, to trim off dead leaves and fronds.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I've done more long term damage by misting palms when inside. I'm in a cold climate state and use a heat pump for heating when temps are over 18F and with that kind of heat it doesn't dry out the house and I can keep humidity at a max of 45%. My tropicals, and more humidity loving palms are grouped together and a heated vaporizer adds humidity to that specific area.

It takes a while since I have so many palms but once every two weeks I take a wet microfiber cloth and wipe down every leaf and frond. I know it adds a measure of humidity to the frond without leaving fungus promoting tiny droplets off the fronds. I know too that its removing house dust on the leaves as well keeping any spider mites or other pests at bay. Good time too, to trim off dead leaves and fronds.

Having seen Scott's collection in person, that exercise of wiping down each palm is no small task.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...