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My ghettolicious winter grow station.


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The 2 x 4"s nailed to the drywall is a nice touch.

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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The 2 x 4"s nailed to the drywall is a nice touch.

Agreed, I like that.

Duppy- Don't worry, you're not alone. I'm using old gym benches to place my lights and shoe boxes to give my potted palms some height to reach the light. Whatever works!

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Lol yah Alice, the 2 x 4's were so I only put 2 holes in the dry wall and then could raise the lights as things grew without putting more holes in the drywall. But as you can see, the two 65w on the outside are already at the top. Bad initial placement on my part.

Smith that sounds perfect! :)

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Welcome aboard, Brett!

If you can't use natural light, try to get florescent light if you can - a lot more light for the money, though you'll also want "far red" light for the sun-loving plants like Jubes.

Keep us apprized.

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is that a moonshine still to the right of the GROW lights

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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5k is high, isn't it? I would think you want something in the 2-3k range.

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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Unless your trying to produce flowers the cheapest thing you can get for good green foliage growth is a 2 t8 shop lamp fixture (Walmart, Home Depot etc) with a pair of 6500K Daylight T8 bulbs

That should give you a coverage of about 4ft x 18". Just add more fixtures to increase the coverage area

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Duppy

Looks like we have the same heating pad ($20).

I bought mine from a hydroponics store(aka marijuana culture store).

Its supposed to maintain temps 10-20 degrees over the ambient temp.

Im using mine as a seed germinator.

I have the pads buried in sand to radiate the heat/area evenly.

I use the baggy method so I have all 3 inside a giant Tupperware like tote.

I always thought the plant growing lights were supposed to be

in the blue color range...higher ultra violet.

Plant lights they sell and even for salt water aquarium

live sand/corals are in the blue uv range.

Any thoughts.....

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What's cheaper......... heat a greenhouse, or provide light indoors for plants? :bummed:

That has more "depends" in it than a memory care facility . . . .

A lot of plants, in a warm climate, probably a greenhouse. A few plants that take the dry, in a cold climate, indoors.

Tropic, you should start a thread with this. I'll leave it up to you, unless you'd rather I did it. . . .

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So you guys are saying I could have just bought a shop light and put regular florescent bulbs in it? Why the hell did I buy grow bulbs lol.

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What you see here is a pair of T8 shop lights from home depot. The one on the left has 6500K GE Daylight T8's - the one on the right has the much more expensive ($10ea?) Phillips Plant and Aquarium T8 Bulbs

I have been running a side by side test with these - a real world test that has proven to me if a light is worth a crap or not. Try growing lettuce from seed below whatever artificial lighting you are using and see if it stretches.

At this point I have not seen the more expensive plant and aquarium bulb outperform the 6500K's at straight compact green growth.

It should also be noted that you will find lettuce must be kept within an inch or two of the bulbs to receive the intensity needed for proper growth and no stretching.

I have been down the indoor gardening road for a pretty long time and if you find the 6500K shop lights aren't getting it done you will need to step up to something more powerful like metal halide or my favorite Induction (www.inda-gro.com)

I don't think anyone is realistically flowering a palm tree indoors? So I would stick to the blue spectum 6500K bulbs for best seedling/young palm vegetative growth

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So you guys are saying I could have just bought a shop light and put regular florescent bulbs in it? Why the hell did I buy grow bulbs lol.

Shop light, yes. Ordinary bulbs, maybe maybe not.

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Runboy's test is instructive; lettuce is a full-sun plant.

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Runboy's test is instructive; lettuce is a full-sun plant.

This is why I posted in another thread wanting to know if anyone had any light meter reading #'s for known optimal palm nursery/shade areas so we would know approximate light levels to shoot for growing our sprouts indoors

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shop lights at Home depot are about 7.99-9.99 for a two pack these days

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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There was another recent thread started or which Brahea Axel participated in

arguing the importance of both light intensity and also soil temperature.

Even if you have the lights/energy to run the ATP growth cycle,

one would still need the correct soil temp for the nutrients to be

osmotically absorbed thru the roots & thru the trunk?

Where and what the heck happened to Brahea Axel?

I miss his insights and Attitude.

Where is he?

Cheers

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