the "HOLY TRINITY" of palms.......

[trioderob]

3 palms make up the holy trinity.

all you would need is a large trucking specimen of each of these palms and you would have the triumvirate

BISMARCKIA

JUBAEA

COPERNICIA

Edited December 11, 2013 by trioderob

[Ken Johnson]

Double Coconut trumps Bizzie.

[DoomsDave]

Dypsis

Dypsis

and

drum roll . . .

honeyed chorus of cleavage-gowned hotties . . .

Dypsis!

[rprimbs]

3 palms make up the holy trinity.

all you would need is a large trucking specimen of each of these palms and you would have the triumvirate

BISMARCKIA

JUBAEA

COPERNICIA

I like that combo!

[sonoranfans]

Don't know if jubaea and Cuban copernicia can grow to adult glory in the same climate. If they can, that climate wont be florida, it would be socal....

[trioderob]

yes - you can grow all 3 in southern California.

Edited December 11, 2013 by trioderob

[Ken Johnson]

So Cal trio... I'll buy that.

[trioderob]

Ken-

lets pop one of those monster Copernicia of yours in the soil o' California.

prove me wrong.

[DoomsDave]

Hmm. Maybe a Corypha should be part of it, and have a Holy Quartet.

[DoomsDave]

Sonora, I think they could do it in the Cali desert, like Palm Springs. (Doing!)

[DoomsDave]

So, Triode, what makes them holy, anyway?

Large size? Rarity?

Thinking about it, there are a lot of palms that would qualify. Maybe a Sacred 13? Or a Hail-Mary 20?

[trioderob]

They must be a large and jaw dropping even to a novice -not just rare or cool to a palm nut.

Edited December 11, 2013 by trioderob

[sonoranfans]

They must be a large and jaw dropping even to a novice.

tahina, bismarckia, corypha, jubaea, copernicia fallaense(not as large but plenty jaw dropping), borassus, etc... All but jubaea can be grown in florida. I have bismarckia, Copernicia fallaense, and Borassus Aethiopum, but all are not trunking yet...

[DoomsDave]

Triode:

Hmm. The list grows. Bet Sabal uresana, for just one, or Sabal mauritiformis, or even Chambeyronia macrocarpa or hookeri for others would be good, too.

[DoomsDave]

Some Hyaphaenes are stunning, too, big, branching, great coloration. (Scream!)

[Mauna Kea Cloudforest]

A couple of egalitarian trinities for the masses: brahea clara, parajubaea sunkha, and dypsis decipiens, or brahea armata, sabal uresana and silver butia, these include almost everyone in CA as these can grow everywhere statewide near sea level and they are beautiful.

Here's a trinity for the "cool" lucky few Norcalers who have a cool Summer frost protected spots in San Francisco and the hills overlooking the Bay area and ocean: rhopie, hedyscepe and ceroxylon.

And here's a trinity for the lucky few Socalers in the hills overlooking the ocean and coastal valleys that rarely drop below 40F: pinanga javana, big curly, and foxtail.

[sonoranfans]

see what you done triode.... In some places the holy trinity will be trachies, queen palms, and washies.... And no one has mentioned hybrids.... jubaea x syagrus like Gary Levines(are they all like that?) are truly awesome palms any place... butia x parajubaea cocoides like in the Dick Douglas garden are certainly awesome....

[Hammer]

Washingtonia

Syagrus

Phoenix

...your move Rob.

[Ken Johnson]

see what you done triode.... In some places the holy trinity will be trachies, queen palms, and washies.... And no one has mentioned hybrids.... jubaea x syagrus like Gary Levines(are they all like that?) are truly awesome palms any place... butia x parajubaea cocoides like in the Dick Douglas garden are certainly awesome....

You do know that this is Triode's favorite kind of post. Stirs things up and that is fun.

[avanza]

Copernicia

[Mandrew968]

Bizzy is ok, but nothing to write home about--certainly nothing to brag about.

[trioderob]

to the people on the forum -yes

to a novice walking by - its all they care about

[waykoolplantz]

They must be a large and jaw dropping even to a novice.

tahina, bismarckia, corypha, jubaea, copernicia fallaense(not as large but plenty jaw dropping), borassus, etc... All but jubaea can be grown in florida. I have bismarckia, Copernicia fallaense, and Borassus Aethiopum, but all are not trunking yet...

have jaw dropping Coryphas...Bizzies...Bailey...Borassus...all trunking. No Jubea

[Mandrew968]

They must be a large and jaw dropping even to a novice.

tahina, bismarckia, corypha, jubaea, copernicia fallaense(not as large but plenty jaw dropping), borassus, etc... All but jubaea can be grown in florida. I have bismarckia, Copernicia fallaense, and Borassus Aethiopum, but all are not trunking yet...

have jaw dropping Coryphas...Bizzies...Bailey...Borassus...all trunking. No Jubea

Mike, when I go to your garden, I don't miss the Jubea Probably the nicest palm garden I have ever been to and I am not sure why I used probably.

[sonoranfans]

Bizzy is ok, but nothing to write home about--certainly nothing to brag about.

I agree the color of bizzy is really the hook. But I will also say they don't look as impressive in Miami, probably has to do with the rocky wet soil. I remember going to a great garden in Miami with Ken, and everything was over the top, except the bizzies, you could shove at the trunk and the tree moved. the root system was apparently unable to grow to full size in the rocky wet soil and the crowns were notably smaller than those in Sarasota area. Its the soil in the Miami area that makes so many other species look great, but the bizzys look a bit stunted and not so happy. the best bizzies I have seen in person are in central/SW florida in sandy soil. I will agree though that coryphas, borassus, big copernicias are on another level.... never seen a big tahina in person, but the size alone should be awesome.

[paulgila]

Bismarckia is one of the most striking palms. personally i don't see how you can say they are "nothing to write home about" but to each his own.

[sonoranfans]

Bismarckia is one of the most striking palms. personally i don't see how you can say they are "nothing to write home about" but to each his own.

I have two bizzies and they are my neighbors favorite palms. Guy across the street asked me about them and went out and bought two of his own. He LOVES them...

[LilikoiLee]

Double Coconut trumps Bizzie.

I took a good look at your avatar for the 1st time today. You must get great views from up there.

Lee

[DoomsDave]

Hmm.

How about a full-grown silver Jubaea? That would be a Holy T all by itself.

[paulgila]

this is all highly subjective,isn't it.

[DoomsDave]

Praise glory, voices soar-ee . . . .

[Sabal Steve]

Bizzies are simply incredible. They are incredibly easy to take care of as well (at least in So Cal, and do quite well in other regions too), have a decent growth rate, create a huge canopy, need little water, hold a large number of fronds, are amongst the top of the most silver palms out there, and take full sun. What more could you want?!?!?!

Average Bizzies in So Cal look better than most of the Copernicas in their prime (regarding browning/yellowing of the fronds) in Flordia. (Note - I love Copernicas)

[_Keith]

So, Triode, what makes them holy, anyway?

Large size? Rarity?

Thinking about it, there are a lot of palms that would qualify. Maybe a Sacred 13? Or a Hail-Mary 20?

So, the Holy Trinity would be the essential palms that would be in EVERY garden. Not rare, big, etc. it would those 3 palms found in all gardens. A garden would not be a palm garden without those

[trioderob]

BINGO

on the other hand this is all totally subjective - it sure aint like a math equation where you are right or wrong

[paulgila]

this is all highly subjective,isn't it.

[NApalm]

The "HOLY TRINITY" (of socal) palms...

[Daryl]

Syagrus romanzoffiana

Trachycarpus fortunei

Washingtonia robusta

[Mandrew968]

Bizzy is ok, but nothing to write home about--certainly nothing to brag about.

I agree the color of bizzy is really the hook. But I will also say they don't look as impressive in Miami, probably has to do with the rocky wet soil. I remember going to a great garden in Miami with Ken, and everything was over the top, except the bizzies, you could shove at the trunk and the tree moved. the root system was apparently unable to grow to full size in the rocky wet soil and the crowns were notably smaller than those in Sarasota area. Its the soil in the Miami area that makes so many other species look great, but the bizzys look a bit stunted and not so happy. the best bizzies I have seen in person are in central/SW florida in sandy soil. I will agree though that coryphas, borassus, big copernicias are on another level.... never seen a big tahina in person, but the size alone should be awesome.

Tom, I challenge you to find a better place to grow Bismarckia. I doubt you can find a place where they look better than South Florida. Having said that, it's still just an average palm. If you wanna accept the challenge, then start a new thread and post ur best bizzy. Then I will post my entries, but you have to accept and post first--I have better things to do than post bizzy pics all day, but I will sure school you on what you posted

[sonoranfans]

Thailand is probably better than anywhere in florida. Since I am not in florida here is one has Alex posted from Sarasota:

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/37618-my-neighbors-bizzie-is/

Anyone who is not impressed with a palm like that is either not a palm lover or a palm snob. Some people don't want a relatively common palm and perhaps this is your issue with such a beautiful palm. Frankly, I have desire to understand such a mentality, I think the common bismarckia is a great palm. In a week I can get some more pics, but lets also compare public plantings as well as private yards so we can tell how well they grow when neglected....

[trioderob]

look-

the folks on this forum might oh and ahhh over a rare dypsis - but the other 99.7% of the world could give a rats arse about it.

its just another fricken palm.

they like the large Bizzie -with giant blue leaves - that will get their attention

Edited December 13, 2013 by trioderob