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#1 DoomsDave

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 10:59 AM

Howdyall:

I've found the information in this particular series of threads useful.

I suggest we keep it up for, say, six months so we can report on recovery of frozen plants?  That's useful, too.

How about it Dean?

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#2 PALM MOD

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 12:45 PM

Dave,
My thoughts on this "project" are as follows:
As mentioned, there are several references already in existence regarding cold hardiness. Geoff's is excellent, and he has been kind enough to contribute here as well. Someone mentioned that Larry Noblick had/has one too. And a few others.
This is after all a forum, a continuum of thoughts and experiences. It is what we do best. I am all for just letting it continue as is. It is not perfect, but it contains a lot of valuable real time info that a data base can never capture. If someone wants hardiness info on a species, it is here.
However, a data base is also a necessary tool. But aside from being a tremendous amount of work, I think it would be better suited to what will become the research area of the new IPS sebsite. I will lobby, and perhaps you all can as well, to establish such a data base on the new website. Maybe Geoff and Larry, or some volunteers from here, could integrate all this new info with the existing. I think it could be a valuable asset for the IPS.
In the meantime, I'm all for letting our format continue and evolve.
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#3 Walter John

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 04:02 AM

Hi Deano or anyone else, was a summary ever done, you know, listing the best survivors versus the worst ? Top ten style could be interesting.
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#4 STEVE IN SO CAL

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 05:45 AM

I have a rather extensive amount of info to add, but I'm still finding new damage after 5 months (eg starting to pull spears on some Phoenix palms)...I'll start putting in some stuff this week, hopefully.
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#5 BS Man about Palms

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 07:01 PM

Yep- I'm still all over the map.  I'm still pulling spears on palms I thought had made it and seeing life in a few I thought were gone! (or close too)
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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

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Posted 06 July 2007 - 07:26 AM

Hello all,

I am newly registered to this forum but many years in No. SD County, CA.  In36+ years have not experienced such a prolonged period of below freezing temperatures (both hours/day and days total) as the Jan, 2007 event.

Pretty hit or miss on damage and/or losses.......small Bismarckia nobilis (20" box) in a low spot = dead/total loss.   Large Veitchia McDanielsii (~20ft) planted higher elevation close to building, minor leaf burn but thriving...along with some plumerias.

1 gal Bismarckia (under cover) doing fine.

Red gingers, Indonesian Wax Gingers  under cover but no heat = dead.

Alexander palms (23 year olds in ground) are fine.

I know microclimates were very important since the damage occurred in zonal formations with cold air drainage zones the worst.
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Posted 07 July 2007 - 05:23 AM

I hate to say it but now is the time some palms will be dying that didnt die strait away ,looks like I'm loosing my Burretiokentia koghiensis ,its mature and flowering 4 feet of trunk ,the last leaf that opened died in a month after opening ,the new spear is only out a foot  and opening and the crown is getting soft.Dypsis lasteliana (just forming trunk ) is doing the same.
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#8 BS Man about Palms

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 07:12 AM

MAJOR bummer Bob! :(
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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 07:11 PM

Sorry about those two MB. I take it your Burretiokentia hapala and Dypsis leptocheilos are still okay? It's a good thing having hardier types as well.

I just "popped" the crownshaft off my A. alexandra with a simple twist of the wrist. No spear movement since February. It had 3ft of trunk.

My 3 Kentias still can't produce a normal spear. Each leaf is brown-tipped and comes out partially open and rubbery.
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#10 madagascarbob

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 05:23 AM

Thanks Bs and OST the hapala is doing fine just put out a huge infloresence and the teddy is recovering.I just peeled off the sheath on the koghiensis and it looked more solid heres hoping.
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#11 madagascarbob

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 05:19 AM

Update on koghiensis ,it's toast.
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Posted 10 July 2007 - 09:09 AM

Sorry, Bob. That's horrible.

The good news, if there is any, is that now you can plant something else if you want.
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#13 madagascarbob

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 02:34 PM

Or make a tiki !
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Posted 11 July 2007 - 08:01 AM


(madagascarbob @ Jul. 10 2007,18:34)
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Or make a tiki ![/quote]
Sure. Only after an acceptable period of mourning, of course.
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#15 Walter John

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 01:56 PM

Any chance of update reports and pics ? Wins versus losses etc. This is when it is really helpful to us all, after 8 months have passed, all the verdicts should be handed down by now.

Thanks in advance.
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#16 STEVE IN SO CAL

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 03:45 PM

Wal...you're right. I have lots of winners and losers...just no time now with the mother of all remodels going on...soon, grasshopper...soon
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#17 John in Andalucia

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Posted 01 April 2008 - 01:07 AM

Here's a link providing some interesting freeze-damage data for cold-hardy palms. The tests were conducted by a nursery in the U.K.
UK Hardy Palm Trial Results


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