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Livistona nitida

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Kind of toasted after two 14-degree lows and several 8b nights, plus lots of low 20s.  Had thin sheets on each of the three three-footers sometimes, but they were blown off at various times, often all night.

I'd call it heavy to severe damage, though the spears and just-opening leaves are only moderately damaged.

Gotta say that they looked pretty good until it started to drop below 20 -- maybe a little better than my l. australis and chinensis.  DL. decipiens/decora is actually about the same as nitida, and doesn't look so bad comparatively, since half the fronds were frayed and straw-like even before the cold.

Jon T.

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No visible damage at 26-30 deg F

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No damage at 24F/ -4.5C. with Frost

Same applies for decipiens

Regards Andy

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I covered mine to keep it dry.  Our low went down to 16F, and I had many nights in the 20's.  

Folar damage showed in April==about 40% burn.

2 Spears pulled, however, as soon as the late April/early May heat come on, 3 new spears pushed out and it is as happy as can be now.   This will be a 'protect each winter' palm for me, but it is pretty so I will do that.

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In north Florida.

Low of 21 F, 10 hours at freezing temps.

No overhead protection.  Little or no frost.

No damage.

These appear to be hardier than L. chinensis, one of which was located nearby and showed mild damage at the same temps.

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Never been damaged in my N-FL yard either. They don't even stop growing in the winter even after a heavy frost. I'm thinking they are reliable to 20f without damage as long as the duration of the cold isn't too long.

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It took 3 weeks of sub zero temps with at least 2 excursions to -4c/24.8v and 2 lower dips to -5c/23f.

substantial leaf burn, oldest are worst off, with about 85% damage, newest growth damaged but not too bad, probably 35%.

2 good healthy looking spears.

This is in an exposed area with no protection what so ever.

It took Frost, Snow and Ice!!!

Regards Andy.

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Multiple nights below freezing with ultimate lows around 20 degrees. Some damage to fronds and emerging spear but ultimately looks pretty good, especially in comparison to other palms!

-Krishna

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Low of 14F. 14 days straight of below freezing temps. 50% overhead protection. 30 Plants in pots (3gal to 10gal) and in the ground had minimal leaf damage although had the spear pull on half of the plants. Most are putting out new spears and it looks like only one is dead.

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Here's an update on my post of 5 years ago (post #1 above): The livistona nitidas all survived that tough run of 14 degree nights, and they are fine and growing well now. I have had temps down to 21 since then, and probably 25 nights in the mid-twenties, and I've never seen any l. nitida damage since that catastrophic winter of 2007. The are much better than australis or decipiens/decora at resisting even cosmetic damage. I believe that livistona nitida is the toughest of the livistonas for a California 9a climate that gets an 8a blast every decade or two. Love to hear updates or similar/alternate experiences from the rest of you!

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Any N FL reports since 2013?

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Mine in Jacksonville looks perfect as of Jan 2016.   Hate to lose it, but I've sold the property and it's going to the new owners one week from today.  The ones I have here in Winter Haven grow well but they aren't very quick.  

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Love this palm...took 30 hrs below freezing with ultimate low of 19F for a couple of hours. 2014 Polar Vortex. Then 2 weeks later had frozen rain for 48 hours. No damage.

L. saribus and chinensis both 100% leaf burn from the same event as did Phoenix hybrid. Queens & albas dead.

L. nitida is a solid N. Florida 9a palm.

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Can't say I had such good luck with L. nitida. One of my two trunking specimens in Natchez, Mississippi (9a) succumbed to the 2010 freeze (three-day freeze to 18F with the accompanying long-term cold); The other croaked this past January with 13.5F. It was right next to a trunking mule that amazingly lived through the event. Almost half my L. chinensis were killed as were two out of three L. saribus; and one of two small L. decipiens. So they have a better record for me than did L. nitida. My recommendation in colder than 9b areas of the humid Gulf is to stick with L. chinensis and L. saribus, always keeping a range of sizes in play, as it's the larger specimens with an aerial bud that die in the super-cold events and the young ones will make it for many years in an attractive state to keep the composition looking good as they come along. To me nothing can beat the appearance of a young L. saribus, just one of the coolest palms right down to their shark's-teeth, and it is a real gift that it will survive such cold. L. nitida are just very dicey if you expect teens at any time, especially since they are faster and  will be a bigger PITA to remove when they get killed. Maybe I had genetically challenged individuals, but I personally also find them to be rather charmless palms with too much of a similarity to Washingtonia in general aspect (the latter being much hardier and resilient). I have a feeling L. nitida is hardier in drier climes.

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