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First pic: Pollen parent Lytocaryum hoehnei. This palm will flower for the first time this year. The pollen came from a mature palm from the Plantarum Botanical Garden in Nova Odessa - São Paulo (from Harri Lorenzi)

Second pic: Seed parent. Lytocaryum weddellianum

Third pic; infructescence on a L.weddellianum. Note the "splitting" ripe fruits

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Fourth pic: little pure L.weddellianum seedling growing at the "foot' of a palm. Note the first leaves are practically pinate from the very beginning.

Fifth pic - some older L,weddellianum seedlings

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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This are the hybrid seedlings. they clearly are bigger then pure weddellianum seedlings and start there life with a strap leave

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Uuuuuuuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. ALBERTO! Currently neither I can believe what I see nor I am able to speak. You have hybrids of L. weddelianum and hoehnei? :yay::wub: Amazing. I am so excited to see that pics and to know that there are other Lyto enthusiastics. :greenthumb:

Alberto ... do you have one seedling left over? :D What I have to do to get one? B)icon_kuss.gif

You´ve made my day, Alberto. THANK YOU SO MUCH. icon_top.gif

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Dear all,

I do not really know how to describe my emotions. What should I say ...

Dear Roberto, what are you for me meanwhile ... a very good friend for sure. Today a small parcel has been delivered @ work. It´s content: the hybrid of L. weddelianum x hoehnei.

I am so indescribably happy.

Now it is my turn to carry through on a promise. Will do that.

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Dear all,

I do not really know how to describe my emotions. What should I say ...

Dear Roberto, what are you for me meanwhile ... a very good friend for sure. Today a small parcel has been delivered @ work. It´s content: the hybrid of L. weddelianum x hoehnei.

I am so indescribably happy.

Now it is my turn to carry through on a promise. Will do that.

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Ante, there are pics attached. icon_mrbrg.gif

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Nice work Alberto in sharing the wealth to other Lyto lovers like Verena :)

Len

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I´m glad the package finally arrived . My aunt brought the seedlings from Brazil to to Holland and from there they were posted to Germany.

Verena , the ultimate Lytocaryum collector, because of her passion for this genus ,deserves to see this palm growing in her collection. :winkie:

I hope that the other germinated seed of the xLytocaryum also will sprout soon. With your love and the hybrid vigour they will grow well, I´m sure. This seedlings/seeds are lucky because will have another growing season there while mine are going to see cooler weather....

BTW- Take care not to burn this little leaves, because they grew in the shade last months..... :rolleyes: ............

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Thx Len. :)

I feel privileged indeed and cannot bellieve what I have. Yesterday was my day of the year.

@ Roberto: for sure, thank you. Generally none of my Lytos have been in full sun, they all like half-shadow. And this very special and precious little palms are my babies now, I will care for them as good as I can and avoid any potential damage. Please keep your fingers crossed that they will survive here in Germany. Roberto will always be the first person who receives updates. :)

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This topic is not only for me - it is for my Brazilian friend, for Alberto.

Well, after a dark winter, the little hybrid that find it´s way from Brazil to Germany seems to get more and more sick. No idea how to describe this better, but there was no growth, brown leaf apex etc. :(

Okay, changing the mixture of the soil seems to be the only way to keep it alive. And what shall I say - IT WORKED. No sand anymore, just a lot of SERAMIS (special product here in Germany, mini form of foamed clay, normally used for hydro plants), mixture relation 50:50.

Alberto, my friend - this is for you. And for all those who like the Lytos. ;-)

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Hello Verena,

Why Seramis? Foamed clay is available at all sizes and is just half as expensive or even less. You can even purchase small quantities from orchid growers in Germany if thats the problem.

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Whoa!

Wonder what Freud would think of all this? :hmm::)

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Hello, Jacob -

nice to meet a Berlin guy here. :greenthumb: Well, as far as I know Seramis is very well suited for acting as a water tank. I do not know if general foam does this as well. If yes, your advice could be an alternative, indeed. Thanks for it. :-)

@ Dave: he would ask to join us. :innocent::evil:

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Hello Verena,

you have to buy the foamed clay that is suited for hydroculture. The 50 liter bag costs about 10€ in my local hardware store. I guess you get about 5 liters of Seramis for the same price. :)

I have used Seramis in the past but can not tell you any difference then the price to foamed clay. For storing water i would suggest the use of peat moss, pumice and lava rock in your substrat. I use foamed clay just as a 5 cm deposit at the bottom of my pots to prevent dammed-up water.

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Hello Verena,

you have to buy the foamed clay that is suited for hydroculture. The 50 liter bag costs about 10€ in my local hardware store. I guess you get about 5 liters of Seramis for the same price. :)

Aloha, Jakob :-)

Well, 30 l Seramis I get for 22 €. Definitely more expensive than your recommended foam which I did not know until now.

Many thanks for the very good advices, cannot exclude to follow them in the future, will give anything a try. :greenthumb:

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Hi Verena! Nice to see your xLyto is surviving and thriving with the new medium!

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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One grown up hybrid from the pot above. Four years and 9 months in pots and now finally planted out

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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