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Jubaea, butia, hybrid?


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#1 richnorm

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:57 PM

Anyone see hybrid in this one? I have posted it before but it is growing really fast (way too fast for Jubaea in our climate) and is quite blue and getting more so. Any thoughts appreciated.
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#2 richnorm

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:59 PM

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#3 Alberto

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 04:53 AM

Was it grown from a Jubaea seed or bought as a Jubaea?
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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.
Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

#4 Alberto

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 04:53 AM

Was it grown from a Jubaea seed or bought as a Jubaea?
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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.
Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

#5 MattyB

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 09:04 AM

I think that it's just too early to tell.
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#6 richnorm

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 03:31 PM

Was it grown from a Jubaea seed or bought as a Jubaea?

Hi Alberto, bought as a Ceroxylon! It had it's first leaf plus a bit of a spear but no seed attached. The whitish tinge was visible on the leaf underside which probably accounted for the outrageous mis-ID. I've had it for about three years which seems way too fast for Jubaea or Butia in my growing conditions. Another weird thing is it doesn't have a particularly vigorous root system. The other genus that springs to mind is Parajubaea and they certainly can grow this fast. I guess Matty is right, I may just have to be patient though I know there are some pretty keen eyes when it comes to these cocosoid palms which all look very similar to me at a young age.
cheers Richard
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#7 JasonD

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 04:33 PM

It does not look like a Parajubaea seedling. It's in the Jubaea/Butia range.
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21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April
Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.
Summer: 67F/55F | 19C/12C
Winter: 56F/44F | 13C/6C
40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C




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