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#1 LJG

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 03:02 PM

Hi,

I figured I would ask this here. I have a Syagrus glaucescens that is dividing like a Dypsis would. I Googled this but I show them all single. Is this something that happens in cultivation or do I have one that might have just decided to grow odd?

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:10 PM

i cant answer your question, but very nice palm!

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:44 PM

I would have to answer in Spanish.


Sorry, I don't know how.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 05:39 PM

I would have to answer in Spanish.


Sorry, I don't know how.

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Hi Bill
written in English and I translate into Spanish
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 07:19 PM

Sorry Jose.. My attempt at humor does translate very well in either English OR Spanish! :D
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:46 AM

Hi,

I figured I would ask this here. I have a Syagrus glaucescens that is dividing like a Dypsis would. I Googled this but I show them all single. Is this something that happens in cultivation or do I have one that might have just decided to grow odd?


Nice palm, Len! How long have you had it; how old do you think it is? I am on the hunt for one, but they are not easy to find... I feel guilty writing this in ENGLISH

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 06:58 AM


Hi,

I figured I would ask this here. I have a Syagrus glaucescens that is dividing like a Dypsis would. I Googled this but I show them all single. Is this something that happens in cultivation or do I have one that might have just decided to grow odd?


Nice palm, Len! How long have you had it; how old do you think it is? I am on the hunt for one, but they are not easy to find... I feel guilty writing this in ENGLISH


Thanks. I bought this from Jeff Searle in 2007 as a plant just coming out of strap leaves. It was in a 3 gallon so it had a little size. It actually really started growing the last two years in the ground. I bought it because I had never seen this palm for sale before and still have not since.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:10 AM



Hi,

I figured I would ask this here. I have a Syagrus glaucescens that is dividing like a Dypsis would. I Googled this but I show them all single. Is this something that happens in cultivation or do I have one that might have just decided to grow odd?


Nice palm, Len! How long have you had it; how old do you think it is? I am on the hunt for one, but they are not easy to find... I feel guilty writing this in ENGLISH


Thanks. I bought this from Jeff Searle in 2007 as a plant just coming out of strap leaves. It was in a 3 gallon so it had a little size. It actually really started growing the last two years in the ground. I bought it because I had never seen this palm for sale before and still have not since.



From Jeff--go figure! If he had a list of availability, I would be there every weekend! Wonder if he has any left-that's a lot faster than I would have figured this palm to be. Thanks for the reply, Len.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:33 AM




Hi,

I figured I would ask this here. I have a Syagrus glaucescens that is dividing like a Dypsis would. I Googled this but I show them all single. Is this something that happens in cultivation or do I have one that might have just decided to grow odd?


Nice palm, Len! How long have you had it; how old do you think it is? I am on the hunt for one, but they are not easy to find... I feel guilty writing this in ENGLISH


Thanks. I bought this from Jeff Searle in 2007 as a plant just coming out of strap leaves. It was in a 3 gallon so it had a little size. It actually really started growing the last two years in the ground. I bought it because I had never seen this palm for sale before and still have not since.



From Jeff--go figure! If he had a list of availability, I would be there every weekend! Wonder if he has any left-that's a lot faster than I would have figured this palm to be. Thanks for the reply, Len.


This is another reason I asked here. It sure looks like Glaucescens but with it splitting I am hoping it is not really one of those ugly clumped Syagrus and will start to change appearance.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 08:14 AM

This is another reason I asked here. It sure looks like Glaucescens but with it splitting I am hoping it is not really one of those ugly clumped Syagrus and will start to change appearance.
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"Ugly Syagrus" lol! Yeah, I would say(besides Hyophorbe)Syagrus is one of the ugliest genus of palm--very few are actually visually stunning. Glaucescens is by no means attractive, but it is very rarely cultivated and it's in the "unique" category. Even if it's a hybrid, your palm looks great, Len. Are the leaves as rigid as they look?

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 08:45 AM

Sorry Jose.. My attempt at humor does translate very well in either English OR Spanish! :D



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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:12 AM

"Ugly Syagrus" lol! Yeah, I would say(besides Hyophorbe)Syagrus is one of the ugliest genus of palm--very few are actually visually stunning. Glaucescens is by no means attractive, but it is very rarely cultivated and it's in the "unique" category. Even if it's a hybrid, your palm looks great, Len. Are the leaves as rigid as they look?


Yes, very stiff. And blue underneath. This and Amara are the only Syagrus growing in my yard :)
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:18 AM





"Ugly Syagrus" lol! Yeah, I would say(besides Hyophorbe)Syagrus is one of the ugliest genus of palm--very few are actually visually stunning. Glaucescens is by no means attractive, but it is very rarely cultivated and it's in the "unique" category. Even if it's a hybrid, your palm looks great, Len. Are the leaves as rigid as they look?


Yes, very stiff. And blue underneath. This and Amara are the only Syagrus growing in my yard :)


I have botryophora, amara, schizophylla, cearensis, stenopetala, "super parrot" and coronata. Some of those are just for my nursery, and will never be planted. Vermicularis is a really nice palm, that I would plant, after seeing large adults.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:59 AM

I lied, I have botryophora too.
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:29 AM

That is a pure S.Glaucescence. It could just be pushing two spears at the same time and will not divide. Either way it will look good.
You have done a fine job w/ yours, it looks very healthy.
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:23 AM

That is a pure S.Glaucescence. It could just be pushing two spears at the same time and will not divide. Either way it will look good.
You have done a fine job w/ yours, it looks very healthy.


Thanks Mark. The spears are basically the same size, so this is why I think it is splitting. I guess I will know by the end of summer as this plant usually pushes out 3 fronds a year.
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:27 AM

Mark

Good to hear from you !-- maybe it got injured ? I think I have seen the S. duartei divided in memory

but I will go through photos and see. As Mark said its a pretty palm.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:24 PM

Speaking of Syagrus glaucescens. I had a sleepless night last night, so I headed to the greenhouse to discover one of my purported Butia eriospatha X Syagrus glaucescens seeds sending down a root. I can't even imagine what this thing will look like. I'll be curious to see if it turns out to be the real thing.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 01:04 PM

HI Len; the Lorenzi book 'Brazilian Flora' states that it is always single, with an upright stem. Perhaps the double spears are a tribute to your excellent care! :winkie:
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:01 PM

Speaking of Syagrus glaucescens. I had a sleepless night last night, so I headed to the greenhouse to discover one of my purported Butia eriospatha X Syagrus glaucescens seeds sending down a root. I can't even imagine what this thing will look like. I'll be curious to see if it turns out to be the real thing.


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Posted 14 April 2012 - 03:24 PM

HI Len; the Lorenzi book 'Brazilian Flora' states that it is always single, with an upright stem. Perhaps the double spears are a tribute to your excellent care! :winkie:


Yeah, thats the ticket! "Excellent care". :drool: :lol:

Well, then if Lorenzi states single then it must have been most likely damaged from something. Maybe fungus or insect to cause it to split.
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 03:36 PM

Sure it's not one of those Syagrus r x trachycarpus hybrids?
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:12 PM

Doesn't BS Man have one? Yours looks different to me. Maybe it's the lack of weeds? Seriously though, bills looks stiffer and bluer from what I remember
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