Jump to content


RarePalmSeeds

Photo

Wigandia urens- anyone growing this in Florida ???


  • Please log in to reply
6 replies to this topic

#1 Eric in Orlando

Eric in Orlando

    Rank: SETTING SEED

  • IPS MEMBER
  • 5,139 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Orlando, FL, USA

Posted 21 March 2012 - 05:30 AM

I just acquired a small Wigandia urens. Is anyone growing this in Florida ? I have seen photos of it in CA and a few in FL. What are it's needs ? Easy to grow ?
  • 0
Eric
Orlando, FL
zone 9b/10a

PalmTalk Advertising

#2 hydrophyte

hydrophyte

    Rank: SEEDLING

  • FORUM MEMBER
  • 172 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Sun Prairie, Wisconsin USA

Posted 21 March 2012 - 05:57 AM

I just looked it up that's a cool plant.
  • 0

#3 bahia

bahia

    Rank: JUVENILE

  • FORUM MEMBER
  • 329 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Berkeley, Ca.

Posted 21 March 2012 - 07:10 AM

Eric, hopefully you'll get an answer from someone closet to your conditions, but I do grow it here in Berkeley, California, and have seen it growing in Oaxaca and Puebla states in southern Mexico. In habitat it grows best in cloudforest locations with those daily afternoon fogs, but I've also seen it growing as an escaped weed seeding itself at the edge of the asphalt highway in desert conditions with cactus. No larger mature plants to be seen there, so I doubt they survive such hot dry locations during the long term.

They are in bloom here right now, and easily tolerate our typical winters which only flirt with freezing, but burn foliage at/below 0°C. As you probably are already aware, after the second or third year they can start to spread vigorously from the roots. A large hillside planting of Wigandia up at the UC Berkeley Botanic Garden has taken over a 300 foot wide slope, so be warned what it is capable of.

What I'm not certain of is how Wigandia tolerates high summer night time temperatures, as I've only seen it at higher elevations in Mexico. It is a cool looking very large shrub/tree, the foliage can get up to 3 feet long, and bloom period here lasts up to 3 or 4 months. The downsides are potential invasive habit and heavy seeding in summer rainfall climates, and the stinging/itchiness factor of the foliage and stems. It seldom sets viable seed here in Berkeley, but I have had some volunteer seedlings show up in well watered containers in proximity to the Wigandia. It has also naturalized in north/east facing canyons of oak woodlands/chaparral vegetation in Los Angeles. I've never seen it escape here in the SF Bay Area, lack of pollinators and freezes as well as 6 month long dry season in the warmer months probably limit its spread. It has been easy and fast growing for me, with clay loam soils or even thin rocky slopes with some supplemental summer irrigation, it is relatively drought tolerant here under cool summer weather with coastal fog.
  • 0

#4 bahia

bahia

    Rank: JUVENILE

  • FORUM MEMBER
  • 329 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Berkeley, Ca.

Posted 21 March 2012 - 07:20 AM

I might also add that they don't transplant well, being very sensitive to root disturbance. This might also be a function of our low relative humidity and the huge leaves.
  • 0

#5 fastfeat

fastfeat

    Rank: SETTING SEED

  • FORUM MEMBER
  • 2,609 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Palmetto Bay, Florida; Yorba Linda, CA

Posted 21 March 2012 - 05:18 PM

There is a Wigandia (urens? caracasana?) that lacks the typical stinging trichomes growing at Miami Metrozoo, I think. It was fairly young, but was blooming. Not sure how long it will last, or how much of an escape risk it could be. I'd be concerned about the latter, for obvious reasons.
  • 0
SoCal and SoFla; zone varies by location.
'Home is where the heart suitcase is'...
_____
"If, as they say, there truly is no rest for the wicked, how can the Devil's workshop be filled with idle hands?"

#6 Luisd

Luisd

    Rank: SEEDLING

  • FORUM MEMBER
  • 239 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 22 March 2012 - 07:48 AM

Hi Eric, I never tried to grow this plant, but I donīt think it is too complicated, I have seen this plant in several places naturalized in a really bad soil, need full sun and is very drought tolerant. I have also seen this shrub growing wild in Barcelona (z9b) where the climate is cooler than here.
  • 0

#7 Mike726

Mike726

    Rank: GERMINATING

  • FORUM MEMBER
  • 18 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tampa, Florida

Posted 11 March 2013 - 05:05 PM

Hi Eric,  I saw a Wigandia Urens at the Huntington Garden in Los Angeles.  It was awesome in bloom.  Can you tell me where you got yours?  I also want to try one in the Tampa area.


  • 0




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users