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#1 Stevetoad

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 11:21 AM

im clearing out my side yard and am going to make it a palm garden (what else would i do). anyway, its a wind protected area that is on the north side of my house so its in full shade all year long. this area also seems to stay fairly moist most of the time. i get frosts every so often but being that this spot is right up against the house i dont think it will see any. i have a lot of room for palms on this side so im looking for as many ideas as i can get because i want to fill it up pretty quick. im thinking some new cal palms but im open to all ideas. or if anyone has an area that sonds like this id like to see some pics for ideas that i can steal......i mean inspire me. :D
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 11:23 AM

im clearing out my side yard and am going to make it a palm garden (what else would i do). anyway, its a wind protected area that is on the north side of my house so its in full shade all year long. this area also seems to stay fairly moist most of the time. i get frosts every so often but being that this spot is right up against the house i dont think it will see any. i have a lot of room for palms on this side so im looking for as many ideas as i can get because i want to fill it up pretty quick. im thinking some new cal palms but im open to all ideas. or if anyone has an area that sonds like this id like to see some pics for ideas that i can steal......i mean inspire me. :D


A picture would be nice and try not to hurt you thumb
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 11:43 AM

If only I had an area with all that shade!

I think any of the Chamaedoreas would be fine. Despite being common, I really like C. cataractarum. It is so lush and tropical. C. plumosa is beautiful. C. adscendens is gorgeous and looks like velvet. Stays very small. C.metallica would be good. You could have an entire Chamaedorea garden!
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 11:46 AM

Jastin, ill take a pic ones i get it shaped. ill be more careful with the razor knife this time

Kitty, i like the chammy idea for sure. ill be planting a bunch in there


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Posted 16 March 2012 - 11:55 AM

I agree with Kitty, Chamaedorea species would appreciate the shade. Slug and snail free will be imperative. Metallica is a good suggestion, also ernestii-augustii. I like tepejilote for the colorful inflorescences and the clustering costaricana for its bamboo-like appearance. Add a Hedyscepe for some contrasting heft, possibly a Rhopalostylis if you have enough humidity? Burretiokentia hapala too. Is this realistic for your place? I don't know...
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 12:00 PM

I agree with Kitty, Chamaedorea species would appreciate the shade. Slug and snail free will be imperative. Metallica is a good suggestion, also ernestii-augustii. I like tepejilote for the colorful inflorescences and the clustering costaricana for its bamboo-like appearance. Add a Hedyscepe for some contrasting heft, possibly a Rhopalostylis if you have enough humidity? Burretiokentia hapala too. Is this realistic for your place? I don't know...



im growing most of those cammys already. i have some seedling rhopies that are doing fine. i should be able to grow all of those. theres also a raised planter box that is in full sun across from this area that im planting a sapote tree and some sun loving palms so in time i should have a heavy canopy. MMMMM Hedyscape would be nice!!!
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 12:13 PM

Jastin, ill take a pic ones i get it shaped. ill be more careful with the razor knife this time

Kitty, i like the chammy idea for sure. ill be planting a bunch in there



Are you planning on raising any part of the planter up? Plant something that grows fast and hardy so you can get some frost protection. I'm very visual/ hands on so its hard for me to just think about what to put there without seeing it. For right now, I would say plant some things that you know will look really good due to your winter weather so your garden doesn't look ratty. once you get some overhead then start pushing the sensitive stuff. How much room do you have? Do you want to plant dense? whats the design Idea?
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 12:26 PM


Jastin, ill take a pic ones i get it shaped. ill be more careful with the razor knife this time

Kitty, i like the chammy idea for sure. ill be planting a bunch in there



Are you planning on raising any part of the planter up? Plant something that grows fast and hardy so you can get some frost protection. I'm very visual/ hands on so its hard for me to just think about what to put there without seeing it. For right now, I would say plant some things that you know will look really good due to your winter weather so your garden doesn't look ratty. once you get some overhead then start pushing the sensitive stuff. How much room do you have? Do you want to plant dense? whats the design Idea?



the lowest temp this side saw this year was 36.4 while out in the open it was 30.3. the side in full sun is raised. ive got quite a bit of room here. my idea is to make a curvy pathway and plant it very dense. i want it to look like Pauls lowlando jungle. :drool:
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 01:21 PM

Pinanga coronata (or Pinanga kuhlii if you wanna get jiggy wit it)

Ptychosperma caryotiodes

Baselinia gracilis

This sounds like a possible sweet spot micro-climate area to experiment with some more tender stuff.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 05:47 PM

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Pinanga coronata (or Pinanga kuhlii if you wanna get jiggy wit it)

Ptychosperma caryotiodes

Baselinia gracilis

This sounds like a possible sweet spot micro-climate area to experiment with some more tender stuff.


I hope so Matt. I put a piece of meat and an apple out there. The apple got a sweet spot and the meat turned super tender so I think I'm good to go.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 05:52 PM

Hahahaha, that was so weird...I love it...
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 05:58 PM

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:54 AM

Chamaedorea cataractarum, Howeas and Chamby hookeri.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 07:43 AM

Lets see a picture. This is a great post because I am working on the side yard and its on the north side as well. Along the property line where it gets sun I planted fruit trees (apple, peach, and closer to the back yard avo and orange). Up against the house I am wanting to put shade palms as well. The concern I have is this area is shaded and the ground is cold and damp all winter. Most of the palms others suggested were in my thoughts. I was also thinking of an archontophoenix purpurea in a spot on the NE corner up against the house where it might get some morning sun. What about a chamaedorea hooperiana? I have a couple in shade and they seem to in winter grow as fast or faster than any palm I have. I was thinking of planting one on each side of the AC unit to scream it. I also have a small kentiopsis oliviformis I might put in this area. Have fun planting the new area and be sure to post before and afters.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 07:53 AM

Lets see a picture. This is a great post because I am working on the side yard and its on the north side as well. Along the property line where it gets sun I planted fruit trees (apple, peach, and closer to the back yard avo and orange). Up against the house I am wanting to put shade palms as well. The concern I have is this area is shaded and the ground is cold and damp all winter. Most of the palms others suggested were in my thoughts. I was also thinking of an archontophoenix purpurea in a spot on the NE corner up against the house where it might get some morning sun. What about a chamaedorea hooperiana? I have a couple in shade and they seem to in winter grow as fast or faster than any palm I have. I was thinking of planting one on each side of the AC unit to scream it. I also have a small kentiopsis oliviformis I might put in this area. Have fun planting the new area and be sure to post before and afters.



im still clearing out the junk that was over there. ill post some pics of what it looks like once i get all this crap out of there. ive already filled up a dump trailer. my area sounds a lot like yours. i even have my ac unit there too.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:04 AM

Lets see a picture. This is a great post because I am working on the side yard and its on the north side as well. Along the property line where it gets sun I planted fruit trees (apple, peach, and closer to the back yard avo and orange). Up against the house I am wanting to put shade palms as well. The concern I have is this area is shaded and the ground is cold and damp all winter. Most of the palms others suggested were in my thoughts. I was also thinking of an archontophoenix purpurea in a spot on the NE corner up against the house where it might get some morning sun. What about a chamaedorea hooperiana? I have a couple in shade and they seem to in winter grow as fast or faster than any palm I have. I was thinking of planting one on each side of the AC unit to scream it. I also have a small I might put in this area. Have fun planting the new area and be sure to post before and afters.

My Kentiopsis oliviformis gnter andets sun from morning till about 3pm in the winter and in the summer it get almost full sun.

Edited by Jastin, 17 March 2012 - 08:06 AM.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:30 AM

Steve,
Cyphophoenix nucele, Kentia, Laccospadix australasica, Rhapis excelsa, cham's, Livistona chinensis, Ravenea, D st. lucie.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:03 AM

Steve - I have a very similar section of my yard and so far these are doing great for me there:

Pinanga Coronata
Chamaedorea Adscendens
Heterospathe Glauca
Ptychosperma Schefferi
Ptychosperma Waitianum
Dypsis Saintelucei

Like Matty said, it sounds like it might be a sweet little microclimate that is protected quite a bit from wind and the extreme elements, so experiment a little bit
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:26 AM

Ravenea hildebrandtii
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:48 AM

Lets see a picture. This is a great post because I am working on the side yard and its on the north side as well. Along the property line where it gets sun I planted fruit trees (apple, peach, and closer to the back yard avo and orange). Up against the house I am wanting to put shade palms as well. The concern I have is this area is shaded and the ground is cold and damp all winter. Most of the palms others suggested were in my thoughts. I was also thinking of an archontophoenix purpurea in a spot on the NE corner up against the house where it might get some morning sun. What about a chamaedorea hooperiana? I have a couple in shade and they seem to in winter grow as fast or faster than any palm I have. I was thinking of planting one on each side of the AC unit to scream it. I also have a small kentiopsis oliviformis I might put in this area. Have fun planting the new area and be sure to post before and afters.





Do My HVAC profession and your palms a favor and think of future A/C unit service or replacement....

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Lets see a picture. This is a great post because I am working on the side yard and its on the north side as well. Along the property line where it gets sun I planted fruit trees (apple, peach, and closer to the back yard avo and orange). Up against the house I am wanting to put shade palms as well. The concern I have is this area is shaded and the ground is cold and damp all winter. Most of the palms others suggested were in my thoughts. I was also thinking of an archontophoenix purpurea in a spot on the NE corner up against the house where it might get some morning sun. What about a chamaedorea hooperiana? I have a couple in shade and they seem to in winter grow as fast or faster than any palm I have. I was thinking of planting one on each side of the AC unit to scream it. I also have a small kentiopsis oliviformis I might put in this area. Have fun planting the new area and be sure to post before and afters.





Do My HVAC profession and your palms a favor and think of future A/C unit service or replacement....

just saying


Most of the time my west facing front door is my AC, but if the unit needs repair now I know who to call.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:02 AM

Copernicia alba and prunifera do well on north side of structures where is sunny in summer and shady in winter
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Lets see a picture. This is a great post because I am working on the side yard and its on the north side as well. Along the property line where it gets sun I planted fruit trees (apple, peach, and closer to the back yard avo and orange). Up against the house I am wanting to put shade palms as well. The concern I have is this area is shaded and the ground is cold and damp all winter. Most of the palms others suggested were in my thoughts. I was also thinking of an archontophoenix purpurea in a spot on the NE corner up against the house where it might get some morning sun. What about a chamaedorea hooperiana? I have a couple in shade and they seem to in winter grow as fast or faster than any palm I have. I was thinking of planting one on each side of the AC unit to scream it. I also have a small kentiopsis oliviformis I might put in this area. Have fun planting the new area and be sure to post before and afters.





Do My HVAC profession and your palms a favor and think of future A/C unit service or replacement....

just saying



im planning on making my path way go to the ac unit and im going to leave a 2 foot buffer around it. would that be enough room do you think?
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Posted 18 March 2012 - 12:53 AM

Lepidorrhachis mooreana did well for me on the north side for a few years before it mysteriously rotted. Hedyscepe should do well. Currently Rhapis excelsa and Howea belmoreana have been doing well there (7+ years).

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Lets see a picture. This is a great post because I am working on the side yard and its on the north side as well. Along the property line where it gets sun I planted fruit trees (apple, peach, and closer to the back yard avo and orange). Up against the house I am wanting to put shade palms as well. The concern I have is this area is shaded and the ground is cold and damp all winter. Most of the palms others suggested were in my thoughts. I was also thinking of an archontophoenix purpurea in a spot on the NE corner up against the house where it might get some morning sun. What about a chamaedorea hooperiana? I have a couple in shade and they seem to in winter grow as fast or faster than any palm I have. I was thinking of planting one on each side of the AC unit to scream it. I also have a small kentiopsis oliviformis I might put in this area. Have fun planting the new area and be sure to post before and afters.





Do My HVAC profession and your palms a favor and think of future A/C unit service or replacement....

just saying



im planning on making my path way go to the ac unit and im going to leave a 2 foot buffer around it. would that be enough room do you think?


And shade for the A/C service guy. :lol:
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 09:49 PM

Are you done clearing everything out? Geeze, your taking forever Steve.Posted Image
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Posted 20 March 2012 - 04:44 AM

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Are you done clearing everything out? Geeze, your taking forever Steve.Posted Image


Not yet. It's been raining for the last 3 days sir. Plus I ran out of room in the dump trailer. Just a closet door,a few pallets ,10 or so sheets of backer board and some random bricks and it should be done! Then it's just a ton of roundup to knock out the weeds that somehow turned into small sequoia trees. It's getting close Posted Image
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Licuala ramsayii??? The cold may be a problem
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Posted 20 March 2012 - 06:11 AM

Licuala ramsayii??? The cold may be a problem



i have one in my front yard that is getting to much sun. maybe ill move it to this area.
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Posted 20 March 2012 - 06:23 AM

At least the rain has softened up the soil for all your digging. Best time to dig some holes!
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Licuala ramsayii??? The cold may be a problem



i have one in my front yard that is getting to much sun. maybe ill move it to this area.


NICE!
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