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Dypsis prestoniana - Not


PalmatierMeg

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I've started a separate topic that I hope may lead to the ID of this palm seedling. I received the seeds 2 years ago as "Dypsis prestoniana". They were very small: less than 1/2" long by less than 1/4" wide. The seedlings were glacially slow and tricky; the majority gave up & croaked. But a few appear to have survived - somehow. I posted some poor photos of my largest seedling in a 1.5g pot only to learn what I have is probably not D.p. So what is it?

Today I took more photos. Unfortunately, it is very windy today but I hope they help. What is this palm? It's very pretty. I keep it under shadecloth on my lanai but would like to plant it someday if I can find the right spot.

Dypsis prestoniana: NOT

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Stem

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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I also took a couple of photos of a much smaller seedling that came from the same batch of seeds.

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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Meg, that smaller plant looks like it could be D. prestoniana. The mystery plant pictured in the first post....uh, I don't know. Does it have a heel?

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Can you dig around for one of the seeds of the larger/darker plants? That doesn't sound like a small seed and is not slow for a dypsis. The small ones look like what I have as prestoniana...

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Matt, thanks for the quick response. No sign of a heel. Stem is straight.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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If it wasn't so dang green I'd say D. cabadae, but in CA at least they are a chocolatey color when small.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Hey Meg,

Looks to me like a Chamaedorea species, most likely something as main stream as C. cataractarum.

Second smaller plant could definitely prestoniana.

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Hmmmm. I'm beginning to think this is a classic case of mislabeling/mispotting by yours truly. I'll plead partial blindness. If it is Cham cat, it will hit the sale circuit later. I have oodles of these. But that D. prestoniana is so glacial and tiny for a palm that grows into a behemoth. Any other guesses about these guys? BTW, seeds are long gone after 2 years.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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Meg, I agree the small could be a presto.... could be another palm Or two also

. Can you provide a stem shot for that one too?

As for the tall green one.. I agree it looks like a Chamadorea.. BUT.. most Chamadoreas grow pretty quick. So makes me wonder if that is the case....?? Did you by chance get any new caledonia seeds or seedlings??

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Leaflets thin or thick?

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Meg, I agree the small could be a presto.... could be another palm Or two also

. Can you provide a stem shot for that one too?

As for the tall green one.. I agree it looks like a Chamadorea.. BUT.. most Chamadoreas grow pretty quick. So makes me wonder if that is the case....?? Did you by chance get any new caledonia seeds or seedlings??

I'm not so sure it is a Chamaedorea. Just a very well cared for palm with good soil, fertilized properly, no weed competion ... :huh:

Len asks a valid question.

Just my opinion ... :hmm:

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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  • 3 weeks later...

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Forgot to post these.

Here is mine Meg. Neighbor added shade structure for his car (2nd photo background) after I planted. :(

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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Hi Meg, the first one, no clue, the smaller one as long as there is some heel that has formed, then I have no doubt that it's Dypsis prestoniana, it also has a very small,long seed, Ed

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