Crazy Weather - Zone 8a to Zone 10aI
#1
Posted 10 March 2012 - 04:49 PM
So, what was your winter like?
Hardiness Zone 9a, Heat Zone 8, Sunset Zone 28
Averages = rainfall 61". Low/H Averages i=January 60/40, July 90/72
#2
Posted 10 March 2012 - 05:44 PM
I live in the cooler part of Zone 9a. Two years ago, we had a Zone 8a winter. I lost a lot of tender stuff and even more froze to the ground. This year we had a Zone 10a winter. I am cutting back and shaping Zone 10a plants that never even went dormant this winter., and things usually considered annuals here that are right back to flowering and fruiting. Things will be huge by the end of the year if we get some even close to normal rainfall.
So, what was your winter like?
#3
Posted 10 March 2012 - 06:57 PM
Do you have a Royal ? When I was living in Jax I had one growing for about 5 yrs
I live in the cooler part of Zone 9a. Two years ago, we had a Zone 8a winter. I lost a lot of tender stuff and even more froze to the ground. This year we had a Zone 10a winter. I am cutting back and shaping Zone 10a plants that never even went dormant this winter., and things usually considered annuals here that are right back to flowering and fruiting. Things will be huge by the end of the year if we get some even close to normal rainfall.
So, what was your winter like?
I lost my Royal in the big freeze of 09/10 along with 30 other marginal palms.
Hardiness Zone 9a, Heat Zone 8, Sunset Zone 28
Averages = rainfall 61". Low/H Averages i=January 60/40, July 90/72
#4
Posted 11 March 2012 - 06:25 AM
#5
Posted 11 March 2012 - 06:47 AM
Greg,A mild Tampa Bay winter has everything way bigger, growing faster and almost out of control care wise! I am trying to catch up. The Mangoes have fruited with small fruit. I need to borrow my nieghbor's big ladder to attempt to get to the top to check out the fruit. I try to climb to the first break in the branches and remove fruit in the middle so the outer fruit ripens. My P reclinata stilted, and the replant doesn't look good. RAIN would help. The big tall Triangle is blooming. I wish it wasn't so tall. I cannot reach the top where the flowers are, otherwise I would attempt to cross with a Pindo! But, wishful thinking. Two cold snaps for two days each, one below freezing (barely)and we move on. RAIN would be nice, did I mention that? Greg :-))
Your mention of Butia capitata (pindo) X Dypsis decaryi (triangle) intrigued me. Do you know of anyone that has successfully performed this hybrid cross? If such a creature exists, can someone post a picture? The degrees of separation between the species seems too far a stretch to create viable seed. Stranger things have happened though.
Thanks,
Rich
#6
Posted 11 March 2012 - 07:12 AM
Santee ca, zone10a/9b
18 miles from the ocean
avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25
#7
Posted 12 March 2012 - 05:03 AM
Kitty Philips
West Palm Beach, FL
#8
Posted 12 March 2012 - 08:20 AM
I live in the cooler part of Zone 9a. Two years ago, we had a Zone 8a winter. I lost a lot of tender stuff and even more froze to the ground. This year we had a Zone 10a winter. I am cutting back and shaping Zone 10a plants that never even went dormant this winter., and things usually considered annuals here that are right back to flowering and fruiting. Things will be huge by the end of the year if we get some even close to normal rainfall.
So, what was your winter like?
Very similar here, except "annuals" and tender plants like hibiscus never stopped blooming! Bananas don't look that bad either...
Edited by Xenon, 12 March 2012 - 08:21 AM.
Jonathan
Katy, TX (Zone 9a)
#9
Posted 12 March 2012 - 03:44 PM
Some dry winters can produce the pea-soupy tule fog that originates in the valleys and creeps out toward the coast, but this year it's been very rare. On only two days have we suffered any frost. My car registered an outdoor temperature two sequential mornings of 37F & 38F with frost on the window at sunrise, and tender plants in the SF Botanical Garden nearby (which can reach 10F lower than my house) were defoliated or damaged. These included Fuchsia boliviana, Gunnera insignis, and some of the newly planted mid-altitude Ceroxyons like C. alpinum. The only plants in my back yard to suffer were a Pritchardia remota (cold wet soil & rats were probably equal culprits), a Carica papaya hybrid called "babaco," and a Kalachoe prolifera. Now our tree daisy, Rojasianthe superba, is reaching full bloom, while our tree ageratum, Bartlettina sordida, swells its buds toward imminent bloom. At the nursery where I work, plants that normally sulk through the winter, like Passiflora vitifolia (red passion flower) and Solandra maxima (copa de oro), are rebounding and blooming much earlier than normal.
Some of the stone-fruit growers will have bumper crops this year because rain has not knocked off the blooms.
What's interesting to see is how little rainfall is required to get the winter greenery popping up. It comprises mostly Mediterranean annual grasses and some perennials, like wild radish. Judging by those weeds, you'd hardly know how dry it's been.
Oh yeah, and bananas - they're looking almost as good as they do in August, having suffered very little from winter gales and long stretches of chilly, wet weather.
Inner Sunset District
San Francisco, California
Sunset zone 17
USDA zone 10a
21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April
Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.
Summer: 67F/55F | 19C/12C
Winter: 56F/44F | 13C/6C
40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C
#10
Posted 31 March 2012 - 08:04 AM
A mild Tampa Bay winter has everything way bigger, growing faster and almost out of control care wise! I am trying to catch up. The Mangoes have fruited with small fruit. I need to borrow my nieghbor's big ladder to attempt to get to the top to check out the fruit. I try to climb to the first break in the branches and remove fruit in the middle so the outer fruit ripens. My P reclinata stilted, and the replant doesn't look good. RAIN would help. The big tall Triangle is blooming. I wish it wasn't so tall. I cannot reach the top where the flowers are, otherwise I would attempt to cross with a Pindo! But, wishful thinking. Two cold snaps for two days each, one below freezing (barely)and we move on. RAIN would be nice, did I mention that? Greg :-))
Yes great winter over our way Greg. This is like the "old days" when I assumed we wouldn't get frozen out. In Palm Harbor I bottomed at 34.X this winter and probably something around 40F in Bokeelia. This sounds OK with me.
Palm Harbor, FL 9b/10a
Bokeelia, FL 10b
#11
Posted 31 March 2012 - 12:54 PM
Greg,
A mild Tampa Bay winter has everything way bigger, growing faster and almost out of control care wise! I am trying to catch up. The Mangoes have fruited with small fruit. I need to borrow my nieghbor's big ladder to attempt to get to the top to check out the fruit. I try to climb to the first break in the branches and remove fruit in the middle so the outer fruit ripens. My P reclinata stilted, and the replant doesn't look good. RAIN would help. The big tall Triangle is blooming. I wish it wasn't so tall. I cannot reach the top where the flowers are, otherwise I would attempt to cross with a Pindo! But, wishful thinking. Two cold snaps for two days each, one below freezing (barely)and we move on. RAIN would be nice, did I mention that? Greg :-))
Your mention of Butia capitata (pindo) X Dypsis decaryi (triangle) intrigued me. Do you know of anyone that has successfully performed this hybrid cross? If such a creature exists, can someone post a picture? The degrees of separation between the species seems too far a stretch to create viable seed. Stranger things have happened though.
Thanks,
Rich
#12
Posted 01 April 2012 - 03:40 AM
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#13
Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:03 AM
I live in the cooler part of Zone 9a. Two years ago, we had a Zone 8a winter. I lost a lot of tender stuff and even more froze to the ground. This year we had a Zone 10a winter. I am cutting back and shaping Zone 10a plants that never even went dormant this winter., and things usually considered annuals here that are right back to flowering and fruiting. Things will be huge by the end of the year if we get some even close to normal rainfall.
So, what was your winter like?
VERY mild winter (unlike most of central Europe & parts of the UK). Absolute low -1.4C (29.4F), with no lying snow to speak of and only 3 air frosts, all of which occurred within the space of a week at the end of Jan / early Feb.
I also live in zone 9a although most winters are 9b. 10/11 was a freak 8a winter - but I didn't lose very much at all although some plants are still recovering. We just missed a 10a winter in 11/12 although I'm sure some areas nearer the coast would not have gone below 30F.
Beyond winter March has been warm but April disappointingly cool so far
Edited by madgav, 16 April 2012 - 12:04 AM.
Northern Ireland
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Mild temperate climate
Zone 9a (1992-2010)
Average annual minimum: -4°C/25°F
Average annual maximum: 26°C/80°F
Absolute extremes (1992-2010): -11.6°C/11.0°F, 31.0°C/87.8°F
Usually high humidity & no dry season
High winds can also be a problem in winter
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#14
Posted 16 April 2012 - 04:49 PM
Sth East Queensland,
Australia
#15
Posted 16 April 2012 - 05:32 PM
I don't know about zones Keith, but the weather across the planet as far as I can see has been crazy now for 2 years. We've had exceptional rainfall for the last 2 years with associated flooding east coast of OZ, and tornado season has come earlier for the last 2 years in tornado alley areas, the freezes in Europe in the last 2 years have been over the top, it's a message to us all. Enjoy life now, plant more palms..
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