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DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I COULD BUY 1M+ FOXTAIL PALM (Wodyetia bifurcata)


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DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I COULD BUY 1M+ FOXTAIL PALM (Wodyetia bifurcata)?

I LIVE IN MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA.

AND IF ANYONE KNOWS WHERE I COULD BUY THEM IN MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA.. PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

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Are you serious? A 2 meter foxtail can be purchased at any box store around here for $10-12. They are not even hardy in my area. They will be located right next to the 8 ft (2+ meters) queens for $7.99. Do you not have any such stores there?

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Jeff

North Florida

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Are you serious? A 2 meter foxtail can be purchased at any box store around here for $10-12. They are not even hardy in my area. They will be located right next to the 8 ft (2+ meters) queens for $7.99. Do you not have any such stores there?

Why wouldn't he be serious ? rock.gif Just because the palm originates from Australia, doesn't mean it's easy to get everywhere over here. Let me ask you :- Are there Serenoa repens sitting "right next to the Queens" in any box store across the entire USA ??

The southern Australian states (Vic, NSW, SA, Tas) have been totally starved for choice when it comes to buying palms. Our standard fare is Phoenix, Queens, Livistona chinensis (and sometimes Australis), Majestics, Trachycarpus and some Kentia's - anything that else that sneaks through is usually only because it's been mislabled. If we want anything else, we have to go for a decent road trip, fork out for a large amount of freight or order seed and grow it on.

In short, most Americans on this board should appreciate how lucky they are when it comes to choice in the palm world !

Regards

Michael.

Just north of Cairns, Australia....16 Deg S.
Tropical climate: from 19C to 34C.

Spending a lot of time in Manila, Philippines... 15 Deg N.
Tropical climate: from 24C to 35C.

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DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I COULD BUY 1M+ FOXTAIL PALM (Wodyetia bifurcata)?

I LIVE IN MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA.

AND IF ANYONE KNOWS WHERE I COULD BUY THEM IN MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA.. PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

If you've got a shovel, just head over to Miccles' place...... :mrlooney:

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Temps range from -1C to 46C. Strange Climate.

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They are common as dirt here, even where they not hardy. Lucky? Because our market flooded with relatively inappropriate palms for the area? They are super fast and not native. So yeah I find it hard to believe this would necessitate in a post. And yes, saw palms are in both the woods and the box stores here. Right next to queens and foxtails. They're usually a couple dollars more too. I'm sure if he shop around foxtails can be obtained with ease, even in cold areas. If not, I say you really aren't looking.

Jeff

North Florida

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Can't help you with a supplier but you are right to try to buy a tough locally grown plant rather than one from up North. I would go for a bigger one if you can get it though as I think your chances will be improved. If it's going into the ground I would do so in the next few weeks else wait until November as it's going to be a marginal palm for your area. Not trying to teach you to suck eggs but...good drainage and a warm protected site.

cheers

Richard

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here in socal you can go to the big box store & buy a washie or just dig one of the zillions of naturally occuring ones up.

not that i am advising that anyone plant a washie,mind you. :winkie:

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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Burksinator, if you're very lucky, you may be able to order one through the Greenvale Palm Nursery; http://palmnursery.com.au/ . They seem to have some sort of affiliation with a Brisbane one. If you manage to do this, expect to, um, pay through the nose as they will charge you the shipping costs from Brisbane and a hefty whack on that.

Regards,

Adam

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They are common as dirt here, even where they not hardy. Lucky? Because our market flooded with relatively inappropriate palms for the area? They are super fast and not native. So yeah I find it hard to believe this would necessitate in a post. And yes, saw palms are in both the woods and the box stores here. Right next to queens and foxtails. They're usually a couple dollars more too. I'm sure if he shop around foxtails can be obtained with ease, even in cold areas. If not, I say you really aren't looking.

Missed my point. As a suitable comparison, I asked if Serenoa was easy to obtain across the ENTIRE USA - not just in it's native Florida (where you happen to reside). I bet it's not.

And yes - you ARE lucky - spoiled for choice really. It's up to you whether you buy one of the many many species on offer, rather than go without because precious little is stocked.

Just north of Cairns, Australia....16 Deg S.
Tropical climate: from 19C to 34C.

Spending a lot of time in Manila, Philippines... 15 Deg N.
Tropical climate: from 24C to 35C.

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They are common as dirt here, even where they not hardy. Lucky? Because our market flooded with relatively inappropriate palms for the area? They are super fast and not native. So yeah I find it hard to believe this would necessitate in a post. And yes, saw palms are in both the woods and the box stores here. Right next to queens and foxtails. They're usually a couple dollars more too. I'm sure if he shop around foxtails can be obtained with ease, even in cold areas. If not, I say you really aren't looking.

Missed my point. As a suitable comparison, I asked if Serenoa was easy to obtain across the ENTIRE USA - not just in it's native Florida (where you happen to reside). I bet it's not.

And yes - you ARE lucky - spoiled for choice really. It's up to you whether you buy one of the many many species on offer, rather than go without because precious little is stocked.

I agree with Michael here. Here is a better comparison. I can hypothetically picture myself asking in the Plants Wanted section for a 1m+ Washingtonia filifera. It's native to the US and all over the place in Europe for example, but here in Sarasota I just wouldn't find one for sale. There are 3 that I know of in all of Sarasota county, with one of them on the property of an IPS director. Would I really want to hear from someone in Southern Russia for example telling me that they are cheap there? How would it help me?

Also I've never seen a Serenoa repens or a Sabal palmetto in a box store in Sarasota. And they are both native to our town. Of course there are still plenty available at the nurseries and it's not hard to just dig up a Palmetto, but they are not in box stores here. Other Florida native palms that I've never seen in a box store here are C. argentata, T. radiata, S. minor, S. etonia, A. wrightii. That's 7 out of 11. A 1m+ Foxtail already starts to trunk. If someone thinks that it's easy to find a trunking P. sargentii to buy here in Central Florida, think again. A Florida native Pseudophoenix looks more exotic in my Sarasota front yard then an Australian native Archontophoenix.

The man wouldn't be looking for it if it was so readily available. burskinator, I hope you find what you looking for.

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I've seen nearly all the natives in box stores. The rarest common type being sabal palmetto, but even this one is available as I speak in a 7 gallon up the road here. Meanwhile my friend just bought a huge 15 gallon pseudophoenix sargentii from an HD in central FL. He bought one the way down to Ft. Meyers from store near you for $39. So once again, just look around.

No they aren't throughout all of the country. Buy why shouldn't I be surprised that he cannot obtain one of these with relative ease? I mean, if I want something of interest then it might require me to leave town as well. Nobody is unique in this way.

I could understand if the request was put in the wanted section and asked "Hey does any one have a locally grown foxtail? I am looking for one that may be hardened off / grown from locale seed source." Otherwise jump on your computer and pay $$ or get in your car and drive. Everyone here has to do this too. So what if our commonly available list of palms is slightly more expanded. Most of those are just nurseries pushing non hardy stuff on us and even much further north. They are too big to make good annuals.. so you can't take that angle.

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Jeff

North Florida

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I've seen nearly all the natives in box stores. The rarest common type being sabal palmetto, but even this one is available as I speak in a 7 gallon up the road here. Meanwhile my friend just bought a huge 15 gallon pseudophoenix sargentii from an HD in central FL. He bought one the way down to Ft. Meyers from store near you for $39. So once again, just look around.

No they aren't throughout all of the country. Buy why shouldn't I be surprised that he cannot obtain one of these with relative ease? I mean, if I want something of interest then it might require me to leave town as well. Nobody is unique in this way.

I could understand if the request was put in the wanted section and asked "Hey does any one have a locally grown foxtail? I am looking for one that may be hardened off / grown from locale seed source." Otherwise jump on your computer and pay $ or get in your car and drive. Everyone here has to do this too. So what if our commonly available list of palms is slightly more expanded. Most of those are just nurseries pushing non hardy stuff on us and even much further north. They are too big to make good annuals.. so you can't take that angle.

Thanks for that - at least you've explained your thought process a little better than your opening post. You still don't get the point though - to you, this palm is so common you're almost referring to it as a "weed". To my fellow Melbournite who penned the opening post, it is something highly desirable and very hard to find here. If he posted "Hey does anyone have a locally grown foxtail they want to sell ?" the total number of replies would be ZERO. He could even put an advertisement in the local paper (circulation 2 million) and get zero replies. I've mentioned which palms are available here in my opening post.

The point I have been trying to make to you is: When it comes to sourcing palms, what is applicable in the US is NOT applicable in other parts of the world. You are spoilt for choice and ease of access. The range of palms available to people in Hawaii, Florida and probably even California exceeds what can be bought in any part of Australia, even in in tropical Queensland and Darwin. Unless you travel outside the US, you won't realise this. I am aware the US is the biggest market etc etc, and that's fine, but you just need to be aware that the vast majority of the world has a different set of circumstances.

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Just north of Cairns, Australia....16 Deg S.
Tropical climate: from 19C to 34C.

Spending a lot of time in Manila, Philippines... 15 Deg N.
Tropical climate: from 24C to 35C.

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I understand your point. But I reserve the right to feel surprised, which is my point. Having trouble finding what is essentially a 1-3 gallon foxtail palm in Melbourne seems odd to me. I know this is a colder area and they aren't recommended, but the fact is that Melbourne is a HUGE city (what 4.5 million people?). I would assume it has tons of resources for finding such an item, rare or not. If someone from India saw this same request, I venture to say they too would be surprised, especially since they are now planting them in mass there. They are becoming more common worldwide.

I've got a friend in Canberra that I want to talk to about this subject, as that is a colder location too.

Jeff

North Florida

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I respect your point.

Canberra - now THERE'S a location that would be a palm growing challenge! Can get bloody hot in summer (bushfires etc) and then in winter (alpine resorts notwithstanding) one of the coldest places in the country. On winter nights, Canberra makes Tasmania seem like Cairns... Last winter Canberra got to -8C.

I vaguely recall someone mentioning that there were some Livistona nitida growing in Canberra..... or were they just hypothesizing ? huh.gif

Just north of Cairns, Australia....16 Deg S.
Tropical climate: from 19C to 34C.

Spending a lot of time in Manila, Philippines... 15 Deg N.
Tropical climate: from 24C to 35C.

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Well, feel as odd and surprised as you wish!

Yes, Melbourne is a big city. Canberra is FREEZING! Frosts nearly every night in winter. India has over a BILLION people. Australia has 22 million.

No, you cannot buy Foxtails here. You can buy small ones in Sydney which is 800km away or the size he wants in Brisbane which is 1400km away. It's not just "the next town" as you put it.

Regards,

Adam

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I've seen pictures of some hardy palms in Canberra, but he grows mainly cycads. Perhaps I should persuade him to get some land and mass produce foxtails, Florida style. Obviously it would have to be in a warmer area.

Jeff

North Florida

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  • 3 years later...

I know its an old thread, but I have been on the hunt for some in Melbourne also. I assume still nothing available?

Im amazed we cant get these here as readily as the cocos!

Maybe ill go for a trip up with the trailer, anyone else want some?

Looks like we may have to mail order some from Sydney?

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DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I COULD BUY 1M+ FOXTAIL PALM (Wodyetia bifurcata)?

I LIVE IN MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA.

AND IF ANYONE KNOWS WHERE I COULD BUY THEM IN MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA.. PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

Why would anyone need a thousand Foxtails? :indifferent:

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

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I know it is an old thread but floridagrower comes across as a jerk right out the gate. You sound mad floridagrower, maybe you need some time in your garden?

What is so hard to understand about palm availability?

I cant even go to local palm oriented nurseries and find anything other than s. Palmetto, med fan and windmills.

Braheas, many species of sabals etc will never be found

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Actually, to poke holes in the comparison used with native 3-7G sabals, it is the only palm that I am CONSTANTLY asked about everyday. Very high demand and overlooked completely by the northern Fl growers along with very little success transplanted as small palms in the wild, yes it is rare as the foxtail in Melbourne....

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What a funny thread, a real thigh slapper. Well and patiently put, Miccles and...WTF floridagrower.

Special mention to bepah for asking "why would anyone want a thousand foxtails eyeroll". Bahaha two things, you silly silly American. The abbreviation for 1,000 is K. He's actually asking for a million foxtails. Or it's a metric measurement - 1 metre. Heard of metric at all?

Glen, I recommend AJSmith in Laverton. Worth a trip from wherever you are, he's the cheapest palm wholesaler in Vic. Has some 8ft tall ones for $120. Very marginal palm here, strongly recommend buying the biggest you can afford.

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What a funny thread, a real thigh slapper. Well and patiently put, Miccles and...WTF floridagrower.

Special mention to bepah for asking "why would anyone want a thousand foxtails eyeroll". Bahaha two things, you silly silly American. The abbreviation for 1,000 is K. He's actually asking for a million foxtails. Or it's a metric measurement - 1 metre. Heard of metric at all?

Glen, I recommend AJSmith in Laverton. Worth a trip from wherever you are, he's the cheapest palm wholesaler in Vic. Has some 8ft tall ones for $120. Very marginal palm here, strongly recommend buying the biggest you can afford.

Actually, the Roman numeric system used M to designate 1,000, so I am not actually incorrect. As to using K, which is used in the Greek language, you may be correct. I used Latin, as the request seemed to be as dead as the language. :yay:

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

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Yes, but have you heard of the metric system at all? It's used by the entire planet, bar the U.S., Liberia (lol) and Myanmar (lolol).

That's what he meant by 1m, Mr Bepah.

I often get confused by using the correct dead language in this hobby....we use Latin when naming things and Greek when measuring things outside of the countries you mention, one of which I am a resident.......

I have noticed, though, a lack of appreciation of irony in commentary in Southern Hemisphere countries, which is what my initial comment was all about! :winkie: Perhaps we should retire to the Argument Clinic.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

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This isn't an argument, it's just contradiction.

As long as we avoid Abuse! :rant:

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

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On 6 January 2012 2:13:37 pm, burskinator said:

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I COULD BUY 1M+ FOXTAIL PALM (Wodyetia bifurcata)?

 

I LIVE IN MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA.

 

AND IF ANYONE KNOWS WHERE I COULD BUY THEM IN MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA.. PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

AJ FLYNN'S IN BRAYBROOK....I JUST BOUGHT ONE $170....... 2 METERES TALL

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On 3 February 2015 4:09:15 pm, Glen said:

I know its an old thread, but I have been on the hunt for some in Melbourne also. I assume still nothing available?

Im amazed we cant get these here as readily as the cocos!

Maybe ill go for a trip up with the trailer, anyone else want some?

 

 

Looks like we may have to mail order some from Sydney?

AJ FLYNN BRAYBROOK HAS THEM

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