15 gal... planted spring '06.
Covered with a sheet... no damage at 24 degrees. This palm is turning out to be truly hardy!
Beccariophoenix (no windows)
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doubravsky
, Jan 15 2007 02:39 PM
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 02:39 PM
Dave
Riverside, CA Z 9b
1700 ft. elevation
approx 40 miles inland
Riverside, CA Z 9b
1700 ft. elevation
approx 40 miles inland
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 03:46 PM
My three Beccariophoenix are four to eight feet tall and are in the coldest part of my grove, hit 25F and the Beccariophoenix were not damaged.
Gary
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Rock Ridge Ranch
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33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet
South Escondido
5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo
33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 07:33 PM
20 gallonish size in ground. No damage after 29 with no frost.
Coastal San Diego, California
Z10b
Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean
warm summer/mild winter
Z10b
Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean
warm summer/mild winter
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 09:57 PM
Hmm.
Mine, no cover, about 29 FF, serious damage, though I might be off on the temps.
(Covered tonight!)
dave
Mine, no cover, about 29 FF, serious damage, though I might be off on the temps.
(Covered tonight!)
dave
Ah, viva Guada La Habra!
Gateway to Whittier! Classic Sunset Garden Zone 23.
Air-drained coastal slope, 20 miles inland, almost entirely coastal influence. Slightly psycho Mediterranean climate.
"If you're going to do it, you might as well overdo it . . . ."
Gateway to Whittier! Classic Sunset Garden Zone 23.
Air-drained coastal slope, 20 miles inland, almost entirely coastal influence. Slightly psycho Mediterranean climate.
"If you're going to do it, you might as well overdo it . . . ."
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 06:45 PM
Four solid nights of 28-29 F(-1 C) out in the open, this guy looks like toast. 
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Ah, viva Guada La Habra!
Gateway to Whittier! Classic Sunset Garden Zone 23.
Air-drained coastal slope, 20 miles inland, almost entirely coastal influence. Slightly psycho Mediterranean climate.
"If you're going to do it, you might as well overdo it . . . ."
Gateway to Whittier! Classic Sunset Garden Zone 23.
Air-drained coastal slope, 20 miles inland, almost entirely coastal influence. Slightly psycho Mediterranean climate.
"If you're going to do it, you might as well overdo it . . . ."
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 11:11 PM
rapped up like crazy in the ground at around 3 feet tall ish. 30% burn at about 23 in that part of the yard.
Orinda CA. Bay area, East bay. 1000 feet high. 9b
Norman Oklahoma
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 11:17 AM
OUCH!
Four nights of 28-29 F.
But, growing again . . . .
Four nights of 28-29 F.
But, growing again . . . .
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Ah, viva Guada La Habra!
Gateway to Whittier! Classic Sunset Garden Zone 23.
Air-drained coastal slope, 20 miles inland, almost entirely coastal influence. Slightly psycho Mediterranean climate.
"If you're going to do it, you might as well overdo it . . . ."
Gateway to Whittier! Classic Sunset Garden Zone 23.
Air-drained coastal slope, 20 miles inland, almost entirely coastal influence. Slightly psycho Mediterranean climate.
"If you're going to do it, you might as well overdo it . . . ."
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 06:38 PM
I have one small 15gal. planted at my mother house in SJC. At least one night at 24. Looks good! The royal next to it chocolate.
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 04:06 PM
One two-gallon plant (character leaves) planted out last year under evergreen canopy in a wind-protected area, with leaf-mulch. most exposed leaf-tissue was killed in a 15-hour freeze, to 23.3F, on 3 January 2008. The plant is still very much alive, lower leaf-areas and spear still green. As with alfredii, am hopeful this will gain hardiness with size.
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Big Pine Key, Florida | 24° 40' N 81° 21' W | elev. 3 ft.
Zone 11b | Calcareous substrate
60-year avg annual min. approx. 48F
Jan avg approx. 65/75F, July 83/88F
Historical extreme low: approx. 41F
Natchez, Mississippi | 31° 33' N 91° 24' W | elev. 220 ft.
zone 9a | Downtown/river-adjacent microclimate | Loess substrate
80-year avg annual min. approx. 23F / Last 7 winters: 24 | 27 | 22.8 | 23.3 | 24.1 | 18.4F | 22.7F (2010-11) / airport/outlying area: 8b/19F annual min
Jan avg approx. 43/61F, July 73/93F
Historical extreme lows: 2.5F 1899; 4F 1940; 5F 1989
Big Pine Key, Florida | 24° 40' N 81° 21' W | elev. 3 ft.
Zone 11b | Calcareous substrate
60-year avg annual min. approx. 48F
Jan avg approx. 65/75F, July 83/88F
Historical extreme low: approx. 41F
Natchez, Mississippi | 31° 33' N 91° 24' W | elev. 220 ft.
zone 9a | Downtown/river-adjacent microclimate | Loess substrate
80-year avg annual min. approx. 23F / Last 7 winters: 24 | 27 | 22.8 | 23.3 | 24.1 | 18.4F | 22.7F (2010-11) / airport/outlying area: 8b/19F annual min
Jan avg approx. 43/61F, July 73/93F
Historical extreme lows: 2.5F 1899; 4F 1940; 5F 1989
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 07:18 PM
(Dave from So-Cal @ Jan. 28 2007,13:17)
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OUCH!
Four nights of 28-29 F.
But, growing again . . . .[/quote]
Dave, did you ever find out what happened here. You seemed to have uncharacteristic damage. Was it new? Did you get more frost? Was it a strange psychic force :-)?
I am thinking of growing this palm. Other experiences make me enthusiastic, yours scares me.
Four nights of 28-29 F.
But, growing again . . . .[/quote]
Dave, did you ever find out what happened here. You seemed to have uncharacteristic damage. Was it new? Did you get more frost? Was it a strange psychic force :-)?
I am thinking of growing this palm. Other experiences make me enthusiastic, yours scares me.
South Central Louisiana, Coastal Influence
Hardiness Zone 9a, Heat Zone 8, Sunset Zone 28
Averages = rainfall 61". Low/H Averages i=January 60/40, July 90/72
Hardiness Zone 9a, Heat Zone 8, Sunset Zone 28
Averages = rainfall 61". Low/H Averages i=January 60/40, July 90/72
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Posted 17 January 2010 - 08:04 AM
I have 2 Beccariophoenix, madagascariensis and alfredii. Both have taken 3 weeks of sub zero temps with at least 2 excursions to -4c/24.8v and 2 lower dips to -5c/23f. very minor damage but generally both looking good.
They were covered in a 4 tier mini g along with a Jubaeopsis caffra which has taken substantial damage.
both Beccariophoenix are in pots the Jubaeopsis is in the ground.
Regards Andy.
They were covered in a 4 tier mini g along with a Jubaeopsis caffra which has taken substantial damage.
both Beccariophoenix are in pots the Jubaeopsis is in the ground.
Regards Andy.
Edited by AJQ, 17 January 2010 - 08:05 AM.
Bangor, Norin Iron Zone 9a Min temp normally around -3 Degrees C, rarely -6C. Only 2 x -3.0C so far this year.
Several just subzero's this year, lets hope it stays this way after last years Narnia Event! Normally around 5C to 10C + in winter, with lots of wind & rain. Summers usually better, 20C to 25 C occasionally 25C to 28C, also quite humid being a coastal town
Several just subzero's this year, lets hope it stays this way after last years Narnia Event! Normally around 5C to 10C + in winter, with lots of wind & rain. Summers usually better, 20C to 25 C occasionally 25C to 28C, also quite humid being a coastal town
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Posted 15 February 2010 - 02:20 AM
Spear pulled on my 5gal that was planted out last year. Low was around 21F
Paul Gallop
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