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This is the first seed set for this palm and I am not familiar with any others in cultivation. Are there any of these growing in Australia?

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realarch

I don't know about Australia Jerry, but that is stunning.

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Daryl

That's a great looking palm! I've never seen any like it growing around these parts. Please put me down for some seed!

Daryl

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MattyB

That's great Jerry, thanks for all the pics! I can't say that I've seen that plant anywhere but your garden. The only thing that it reminds me of is a plant sold as D. psamophila. This is an old pic from Gary Michalis' place in Mission Beach, CA. It's very hard to compare plants across climates.

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Jeff Searle

Jerry,

That's a pretty stunning palm! I've never seen it before, including in Madag. It's nice that it now has set seed for you.

Remember the crotons I sent you a couple years back? :winkie:

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DippyD

That looks a lot like the dypsis black stem that Gary Levine had seen while he was on his trip to Madagascar, can't find the thread but there is a updated photo o what he sprouted somewhere.

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BS Man about Palms

You may be onto something Brett... :blink:

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MattyB

Nope

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Pez

Looks similar to arenarum??

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Jeff Searle

Looks similar to arenarum??

No, Arenarum dosen't have all the black, or white. More of a silvery blue color.

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Walter John

I like the name - "lafazamanga". :)

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jdapalms

Matty,

The plant at Gary Michalis old place is one he bought from me years ago from a batch of seed that came in as Dypsis Psamophila. This plant is different. I have the same plant here. I am not sure about the black Dypsis baronii that Gary L posted pictures of but I don't think this is that.

Jeff, I do remember the croutons you sent to me and the Florida mangos that we enjoyed so much at your place during are visit, which was very nice.

Thanks Jerry

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JD in the OC

I was going to say D. arenarum too. Or, it's just a variant of D. baronii.

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palmislandRandy

Here's my Dypsis "black stem". Still another variation of baronii? The petioles aren't as yellow as Jerry's.

-Randy

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Gtlevine

Jerry's palm is unique, never seen one like it.

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CharlieM

This is the first seed set for this palm and I am not familiar with any others in cultivation. Are there any of these growing in Australia?

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Absolutely beautiful Jerry, how many years has it been in the ground?

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Moose
On 8/17/2011, 11:35:21, palmislandRandy said:

Here's my Dypsis "black stem". Still another variation of baronii? The petioles aren't as yellow as Jerry's.

 

-Randy

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Looks like my friend Randy has unlocked the secret to the Dypsis Black Stem in Florida! :wub:

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Matt in OC

Bump! Any updated pictures or notes?

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LJG
On 12/5/2017, 8:26:37, Matt in OC said:

Bump! Any updated pictures or notes?

Matt, I grew this palm close to 12 years ago when Jerry Andersen had a few for sale at his nursery. It was a slow grower and not an easy palm to grow. Mine died one winter. Fast forward to the Floribunda offering from seed off Jerry's tree posted above. I am convinced this crop are hybrids. They are fast, easy to grow, and most importantly, some are going irregular leafed - which you can see Jerry's palm is not. My guess is that floozy finder Dypsis madagascariensis got himself involved again.

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Matt in OC
39 minutes ago, LJG said:

Matt, I grew this palm close to 12 years ago when Jerry Andersen had a few for sale at his nursery. It was a slow grower and not an easy palm to grow. Mine died one winter. Fast forward to the Floribunda offering from seed off Jerry's tree posted above. I am convinced this crop are hybrids. They are fast, easy to grow, and most importantly, they are going irregular leafed - which you can see Jerry's palm is not. My guess is that floozy finder Dypsis madagascariensis got himself involved again.

Great observations, Len. Mine have been fast in pots and carefree but with very little coloring at 1 gal. size. I’ll pot up and wait and see. Thanks. 

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Firepalm

So Len, based on your observations it would be safe to guess that these palms coming from Floribunda will ultimately be much larger than Jerry's tree from the pics above? I was sort of hoping this would turn out to be a smaller, colorful clumper like his appears to be.  I was thinking of putting one of mine in the ground, but may do the same as Matt and just pot it up and wait.

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Hilo Jason

I just recently picked one of these up from Floribunda. Thought I would share pictures for people wondering what the plants look like that are available from Floribunda right now. 

Bought this as a 4", put in a 1 gallon pot for a couple months then planted out. It's now splitting into two. I confirmed that seed did come from Jerry's plant which I saw in person in October. I hope these stay true as it's a beautiful Dypsis! 

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Leaflets are staying regular so far, but bugs seem to like them! 

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Matt in OC

That’s super helpful. Thanks Jason!

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LJG
15 hours ago, Firepalm said:

So Len, based on your observations it would be safe to guess that these palms coming from Floribunda will ultimately be much larger than Jerry's tree from the pics above? I was sort of hoping this would turn out to be a smaller, colorful clumper like his appears to be.  I was thinking of putting one of mine in the ground, but may do the same as Matt and just pot it up and wait.

Not sure. Just a hunch mine are hybrids. Maybe others come out true. I remember another characteristic this palm had before when I grew it and that was the glaucous abaxial sides of the leaflets. This new crop is green. Still looks like it will turn out to be a killer palm, just maybe not what was intended. 

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Matt in OC

Just checked my 3 one gallons: irregular leaflets and green throughout. 

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Hilo Jason
21 hours ago, Matt in OC said:

That’s super helpful. Thanks Jason!

Sure thing. I can always post updates down the road whenever you want to see new pics. Just let me know. 

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DoomsDave

Just got a few from Floribunda 

awaiting further developments

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Matt in OC

I noticed a few days ago that I'm starting to get some red coloring on the new petioles of my three. This has me hopeful. 

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DoomsDave

My "Laffas" have turned out to be pretty good so far. They rooted right in, didn't play fussy and hard to please. I'm going to stick one or two in some stronger light and see what they do.

@Matt in OC, they will get more color on them. I just auctioned one off for an obscene amount at the last PSSC auction.

This might turn out to be a winner.

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Matt in OC

@DoomsDave Yes, very unfussy for me. I need to put one in the ground to see what happens, but I'm guessing it'll be a quick grower.

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DoomsDave
Just now, Matt in OC said:

@DoomsDave Yes, very unfussy for me. I need to put one in the ground to see what happens, but I'm guessing it'll be a quick grower.

I think they'll love it down there in CM in the OC . . .

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DoomsDave
On 8/18/2018, 11:37:52, LJG said:

Not sure. Just a hunch mine are hybrids. Maybe others come out true. I remember another characteristic this palm had before when I grew it and that was the glaucous abaxial sides of the leaflets. This new crop is green. Still looks like it will turn out to be a killer palm, just maybe not what was intended. 

Mine, too.

Sometimes, life has a nice surprise. Not nearly often enough.

That's what love about Dypsis

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LJG
On 9/25/2018, 10:13:05, DoomsDave said:

My "Laffas" have turned out to be pretty good so far. They rooted right in, didn't play fussy and hard to please. I'm going to stick one or two in some stronger light and see what they do.

@Matt in OC, they will get more color on them. I just auctioned one off for an obscene amount at the last PSSC auction.

This might turn out to be a winner.

Dave, “Lafa” and “Lafazamanga” different plants. Marcus sells both. 

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DoomsDave
1 hour ago, LJG said:

Dave, “Lafa” and “Lafazamanga” different plants. Marcus sells both. 

Yes my penchant for abbreviations kills me again.

I mean lafamazanga; which rolls off the tongue and into the garden !

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LJG
Just now, DoomsDave said:

Yes my penchant for abbreviations kills me again.

I mean lafamazanga; which rolls off the tongue and into the garden !

Ahh. Got it. Lafa is not easy to grow for me. 

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Hilo Jason

Here are a few updated pictures of  mine now that it has split. It was just starting to in my photos above from about 2 months ago. 

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akamu

So what's e verdict  on these as far as sun exposure in California. I have one i want to plant out in spring . Keep it in dappled light  or let it emerge into sun like baronii  any thoughts 

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realarch

Well, I think this the same palm in this thread, and it sure is looking good lately. Nice color trunk and emergent spikes. 

 

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Hilo Jason
1 hour ago, realarch said:

Well, I think this the same palm in this thread, and it sure is looking good lately. Nice color trunk and emergent spikes. 

 

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Seeing yours helped me decide to buy another when I was at Floribunda a couple weeks ago.  So nice! 

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Hilo Jason
On 1/8/2019, 3:01:51, akamu said:

So what's e verdict  on these as far as sun exposure in California. I have one i want to plant out in spring . Keep it in dappled light  or let it emerge into sun like baronii  any thoughts 

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Hey Adam - I can’t say for sure about So Cal since I didn’t have any of these in my Fallbrook garden but here in Hilo I have it in full sun and it’s very happy. Granted full sun in Hilo is nothing like full sun in California. So I would say put it some filtered light so it gets a good amount of sun and heat at least for part of the day. Tim’s photo just below yours is pretty shaded so they can also handle shade here, but in California I imagine it would grow a bit slower in too much shade.  Yours looks great and ready for the ground. 

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