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#81 gyuseppe

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 08:54 AM

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Tim, I had a feeling this would happen....
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Nigel you think these seeds are not fertile? :( or size of the seed does not matter?
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 10:53 AM

I wonder why they are taking so long. Do Parajubaea Sunkha seeds take a long time to mature compared to Syagrus.
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 11:15 AM

I wonder why they are taking so long. Do Parajubaea Sunkha seeds take a long time to mature compared to Syagrus.

Tim...

Can't help with sunkha but cocoides takes ages...They don't change colour like queens either.

Congratulations on your efforts so far..

kind regards...
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 11:46 AM

If Tim has cut them open and found them to be normal they should germinate. This should be something quite special.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 03:53 PM

Just an update to let everyone know that these Syagrus x Parajubaea Sunkha hybrid seeds are taking an extremely long time to ripen. Reqular queen seeds the same age in my garden have ripened and fallen to the ground weeks ago. Let's hope that they are worth the wait. They are contiuing to plump up, but are still green and none have fallen. Tim
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 07:02 PM

Keeping our fingers (& toes) crossed for a bountiful & viable harvest!!!!
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 02:42 AM

Fingers crosseds for a good harvested!!!
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 02:25 PM

These Queen x Parajubaea Sunkha seeds are finally maturing. I am hoping to start cleaning some seeds next week.
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 03:30 PM

Nice, I can't wait to see seedlings.
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 03:30 PM

Just an update to let everyone know that these Syagrus x Parajubaea Sunkha hybrid seeds are taking an extremely long time to ripen. Reqular queen seeds the same age in my garden have ripened and fallen to the ground weeks ago. Let's hope that they are worth the wait. They are contiuing to plump up, but are still green and none have fallen. Tim


You began to pollenate the queen inflorescence in August 2011, so the ripening of the hybrid queen fruits took only 7 months. My normal queens fruits here ,take +- 9 months to ripe


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Posted 19 March 2012 - 03:30 PM

Just an update to let everyone know that these Syagrus x Parajubaea Sunkha hybrid seeds are taking an extremely long time to ripen. Reqular queen seeds the same age in my garden have ripened and fallen to the ground weeks ago. Let's hope that they are worth the wait. They are contiuing to plump up, but are still green and none have fallen. Tim


You began to pollenate the queen inflorescence in August 2011, so the ripening of the hybrid queen fruits took only 7 months. My normal queens fruits here ,take +- 9 months to ripe


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I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 04:59 PM

These Queen x Parajubaea Sunkha seeds are finally maturing. I am hoping to start cleaning some seeds next week.
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Congratulations Tim!

I'm sure your hard work and dilligence has paid off.

Best Wishes,

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 09:22 PM

These Queen x Parajubaea Sunkha seeds are finally maturing. I am hoping to start cleaning some seeds next week.
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Tim the seeds look good,I hope you have a good germination
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Posted 20 March 2012 - 05:32 PM

Great news Tim!!!! Thanks for the update!
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 01:00 PM

I wonder if you got round to using any of the Parajubaea sunkha pollen on butia or Jubutia yet? I'm keen to get in line to buy the seedlings as and when they become available!!
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 03:34 PM

Cleaned a few hundred of the ripest seed today and decided to build some new germination beds as my older ones ar starting to fall apart. I germinate all of my seeds in beds on top of the ground outdoors. I have tried lots of other techniques, but this works best for me. I usually put them in the beds in March-April and germination usually occurs before July with most seeds. Here are a few photos of my work today. These photos are of the bottom half of the bed. I use wire mesh and weed cloth on the bottom to keep out weeds and critters like moles. The weed cloth still allows good drainage.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 03:39 PM

Here is a photo of the Syagrus R. x Parajubaea Sunkha seeds that I harvested this week. I have quite a few to work with, so I made a new seed cleaner too.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 03:45 PM

I put two inches of course sand in the bottom and five inches of premium potting mix on top of that. I place the seeds and then cover with about an inch of potting mix. I have to cover the top with wire mesh to keep out all of the neighborhood squirrels.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 03:58 PM

Today I only cleaned the very ripe seeds shown above in the ziplock bags. I have to wait about a week for the others to get ripe enough. The rest of the vacant seed beds shown in the photos will be used for other hybrids. I hope to attempt Jubutia x Parajubaea Sunkha soon if possible. Just waiting for my Jubutia to produce an inflorescence.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 05:17 PM

I forgot to mention that I usually populate my seed beds with hundreds of earthworms. I also buy a beneficial fungi from a hydroponics supplier, and pour it onto moist soil right after sowing.
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 03:06 AM

Great update and pics Tim!!! Nice set up for your germination efforts! I'm looking forward to seeing these babies develop! And being a proud owner of one in the future... Jv
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 03:23 AM

Nice looking germination setup, good luck.
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 01:38 PM

Nice looking germination setup, good luck.


Thanks Matt
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 01:40 PM

Great update and pics Tim!!! Nice set up for your germination efforts! I'm looking forward to seeing these babies develop! And being a proud owner of one in the future... Jv


Thanks JV.... I have all of you guys in mind, and hope to have an all-new addition for everyones collection this year. Most of the credit goes to Gary LeVine for sending fresh Parajubaea Sunkha pollen and making this cross possible. Apparently Sunka offers the best of Parajubaea traits to this cross. Tim
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 11:47 PM

Thanks Tim! This should be an excellent hybrid and one that should work well for my zone. (BTW the BxS I got from you a couple yrs back, made the transplant to the new home/garden well and should really put some size on this year... thanks again for your hybridizing efforts!)
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:46 AM

Ehi Tim, don't forget us, overseas people!!!
For many of us is more easy to import seeds than seedling.

Your germination tecnique is very interesting, I think I'll try it with species that need a sudden change of temperature.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 07:20 AM

Thanks Tim thats very interesting and informative stuff. Maybe thats really the better way to go , less damping off at cost of probable lower germination, but a healthier young seedling to start with.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:49 PM

Tim,

I am always looking for your next post to see what you are doing. You certainly should be commended for sharing information with the rest of us that might need to ride on your coat tails - nice seed cleaner!! The XJubutyagrus we purchased from you, called "Big Poppa," is mid-row in the first photo below and doing exceptional.

I thought that I would share something that has really worked well for my germination and seedlings growth to 1 year. I found a large landscaper in my area that had plenty of large 25 gallon of pots for sale cheap. I use those for my community germination pots and have had a high rate of germination. The pots are easily covered with chicken wire to keep out the varmits that enjoy eating seeds. The seedlings can stay in these pots for about a year since there is at least 24 inches of soil. The seedings go into a one gallon pot without any transplant shock - the very fine roots stay with the soil. I get about 200 seedlings per pot and have 30 pots planted with seeds that are just starting to come up 2012 - do the math and what was I thinking!!! Here are some additional photos of my nursery http://s1193.photobu...ckyardparadise/

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 04:27 PM

I have planted my germination bed three weeks ago, and hoping to see some germination by the first of June. I have some extra seeds if anyone is interested. I have them listed in the palm exchange forum here http://www.palmtalk....showtopic=32676
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:14 PM

I am happy to report that the Syagrus x Parajubaea Sunkha seeds that I planted four weeks ago have begun germinating (in bed photographed post #98 above). I can never resist digging around in the corner of the bed to check. Tim
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:51 PM

I am happy to report that the Syagrus x Parajubaea Sunkha seeds that I planted four weeks ago have begun germinating (in bed photographed post #98 above). I can never resist digging around in the corner of the bed to check. Tim


Thats great Tim, you have got this whole process dialed down to a fine art now, very impressive.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 10:02 AM

These Syagru x Parajubaea Sunkha are germinating at a good percentage. These photos are 9 weeks after planting in the germination bed.
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 12:48 PM

Tim,
Assuming you're getting the rain we're getting, those seedlings (and you) must be loving it. congrats on what looks like a success.
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Posted 23 July 2012 - 05:17 PM

thanks TIm.
i can´t wait to see what becomes.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 04:11 AM

Just an update to let everyone know that these Syagrus x Parajubaea Sunkha hybrid seeds are taking an extremely long time to ripen. Reqular queen seeds the same age in my garden have ripened and fallen to the ground weeks ago. Tim


hello Tim.

You said that your seeds took longer to ripe...
because in my hands have taken less time to germinate than a regular queen seeds... :mrlooney:
regards.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 04:59 PM

Tim,

I really want to try 1 or 2 of those here in the North Dallas area of Texas. My mule palms are doing very well so far for the heat and cold we have here. Only testing will we know what they will take for cold hardiness. Let me know what these would cost for some trials here.

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