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fan palm id in riverside

doubravsky

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doubravsky

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This palm is slated for removal in Riverside.... owner asked me to id it and see if anyone would like to dig and take it............ Sabal Palmetto?

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Dave

 

Riverside, CA Z 9b

1700 ft. elevation

approx 40 miles inland

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paulgila Grand Master

paulgila

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looks like you'd need some heavy equipment to move that sucker.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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Ken Johnson carries Sabals like that in his pocket.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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are you SURE thats what that was in his pocket??? :rolleyes:

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the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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It is hard to tell but the size of the fruit makes it look like a Sabal 'Riverside'.

So many species,

so little time.

Coconut Creek, Florida

Zone 10b (Zone 11 except for once evey 10 or 20 years)

Last Freeze: 2011,50 Miles North of Fairchilds

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I'll stop by and pull of a fruit/ measure/ take a pic.....

Dave

 

Riverside, CA Z 9b

1700 ft. elevation

approx 40 miles inland

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AggiePalms

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Probably Riverside. Mine isn't old enough to have fructescences to compare.

Gig 'Em Ags!

 

David '88

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Kris Grand Master

Kris

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Nice visuals....And that's a beautiful palm ! And it looks to me like SRS(Sabal River Side)...:)

But i have doubt,here.Do these 'SRS' palm love dry foot,similar to Washy filifera.Since one of our well grown specimen just rotted once shifted from big barrel to clay

garden soil ? Why ! :hmm:

Thanks & Love,

kris.

love conquers all..

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Ken Johnson Grand Master

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It was my back pocket. I save the front for mauritiiformis.

BTW Nice palm. It may be a rouge Riverside in Riverside. Your Say-Balls Look different than ours sometimes. Maybe thats why we pronoumce them different too.? :blink:

You transplant will go much better if you root prune it. You will also have a chance to demonstrate that Sabal roots DO NOT DIE when cut. Just keep it moist (PM me for a trick of the trade). When you pull it you can show us the cut roots that heal and branch. :D

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Jerry@TreeZoo Grand Master

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It was my back pocket. I save the front for mauritiiformis.

BTW Nice palm. It may be a rouge Riverside in Riverside. Your Say-Balls Look different than ours sometimes. Maybe thats why we pronoumce them different too.? :blink:

You transplant will go much better if you root prune it. You will also have a chance to demonstrate that Sabal roots DO NOT DIE when cut. Just keep it moist (PM me for a trick of the trade). When you pull it you can show us the cut roots that heal and branch. :D

The U of F has always maintained that roots cut on a Sabal die back to the trunk. This would be interesting to see the branching roots. Of course, they just cut the roots and did not use any tricky stuff either. Ken, without giving away any trade secrets, is your method reproduceable on a larger scale at a reasonable cost or is it just worth employing on high value palm transplant?

So many species,

so little time.

Coconut Creek, Florida

Zone 10b (Zone 11 except for once evey 10 or 20 years)

Last Freeze: 2011,50 Miles North of Fairchilds

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Here is a pic of a couple of seeds I took off the tree this morning... ruler for scale. Does this help with the id?

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Dave

 

Riverside, CA Z 9b

1700 ft. elevation

approx 40 miles inland

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These two were off another Sabal nearby that had a little bit more of a blue leaf color... but the seeds were very similar in shape.

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Dave

 

Riverside, CA Z 9b

1700 ft. elevation

approx 40 miles inland

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Patrick Veteran

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If I recall, don't palmettos have pretty small seeds? Say maybe 1/4 - 1/2" when you get the fruit off?

These look pretty big..., relatively speaking of course! :winkie:

I've dealt with some Riverside seeds about 2 years ago and they were about this size if I remember it correctly :blink:

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Oakley, California

55 Miles E-NE of San Francisco, CA

Solid zone 9, I can expect at least one night in the mid to low twenties every year.

Hot, dry summers. Cold, wet winters.

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Looks like Riverside seed/fruit to me. Definitely not palmetto.

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So many species,

so little time.

Coconut Creek, Florida

Zone 10b (Zone 11 except for once evey 10 or 20 years)

Last Freeze: 2011,50 Miles North of Fairchilds

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Thanks all for the assistance! I found out that the owner received these as two small plants from someone in Riverside 25 years ago... I wonder if it came from the original ?

Dave

 

Riverside, CA Z 9b

1700 ft. elevation

approx 40 miles inland

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Those seeds are way too large to be Palmetto. I am not familiar w/ Riverside but it is deffinatly not a S.Palmetto.

A simple bobcat would do the trick w/ that sucker, i hope someone saves it!

I know,,, give PogoBob a shout, he would LOVE to have that palm!!!LOL!!!

Orlando, Florida

zone 9b

The Pollen Poacher!!

GO DOLPHINS!!

GO GATORS!!!

 

Palms, Sex, Money and horsepower,,,, you may have more than you can handle,,

but too much is never enough!!

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Freakypalmguy will want it for sure.

1) It's close by (sorta)

2) It's free and no one wants it

3) He can just pull it out of the ground with his truck :unsure:

Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

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Freakypalmguy will want it for sure.

1) It's close by (sorta)

2) It's free and no one wants it

3) He can just pull it out of the ground with his truck :unsure:

Am I that predictable :unsure::)

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

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Keith N Tampa (ex SoJax) Veteran

Keith N Tampa (ex SoJax)

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Me too. Get that on video! Sabal vs truck...my money is on Sabal.

Land O Lakes FL, a suburb on the North Side of Tampa, FL

Summers are great, 90f/32c in the day & 70f/21c at night with plentiful rain & sun

Winters are subtropical with occasional frosts and freezes. Tropical cyclones happen.

We have a few Royal palms in the warm microclimates but Coconuts freeze.

I am a Kayaker, Hiker, Bicyclist, and amateur Photographer that loves the outdoors.  

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freakypalmguy Grand Master

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What, do you guys think I'm crazy or something, I'd never pull it out with a truck, I'd use the Pontiacstractor.

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

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BS Man about Palms

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It works...

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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What, do you guys think I'm crazy or something, I'd never pull it out with a truck, I'd use the Pontiacstractor.

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Go for it. I'd hate for that palm to meet a chainsaw.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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