21 replies to this topic

[Madchemis]

Hi All,

I'm new here, I've been wondering since their is frequent discussion, sale, and exchange about cycad. Wouldn't it be better to have another sub-topic devoted for it, such as CyadTalk. I know that there is a Cycad Forum, but it's mainly sales and exchanges in Africa. I like their forum setup and I think it would be good to have one here too. This is just suggestion and would like to know what you feel about this.

-David

[PALM MOD]

I'll leave this for the IPS President to address. I'll make sure he doesn't miss it.

[bgl]

David,

This site is paid for by the International Palm Society. The IPS Board of Directors has reluctantly agreed to have a number of sub-forums that don't deal directly with palms (eg. Tropical Looking Plants) but that's as far as it goes. The Board would not approve of, or agree to, a dedicated cycad sub-forum, just like they would not agree to a dedicated sub-forum for any other group of plants.

Aloha,

Bo-Göran Lundkvist
President, IPS

[bepah]

there is a forum dedecated to cycads.....http://www.cycadforum.co.za/

Many of those here that are interested in cycads are also members there.

Good luck.

[Palmzilla]

cycads and palms go together like peas and carrots!

[Madchemis]

I agree with Braden, so why is palm the majority and cycad is the minority here? Just only my though, don't take it offensively. I like palm too! and owns a lot of variety.

[paulgila]

as stated above there is already a sub-forum for plants other than palms. do you think another is really needed? palm talk is already a bit fragmented in my opinion.

[Madchemis]

I feel the same way it's a bit fragmented and thus disorganized. That is way I made this suggestion. Sorry, if I offended anybody, that's not the intention.

Peace,
David

[freakypalmguy]

I would love to see one as well, since I am a confessed cycadict, but I can see the delemma, where does it end? Before long, the fruit and nut guys and gals will be wanting their own thread as well

[_Wal]

I agree there should be a bigger focus on cycads but not necessarily to
create another sub-forum. An idea would be to amend the existing "Tropical
Looking Plants" forum to "Cycads and other tropical looking plants". That
may seem biased because I am a member of the Palm and Cycad society of
Australia but one would have to have the blinkers on not to see that cycads
are unlike the other tropical plants in that they do have synonymous place
alongside palms. The number of threads relating to cycads could be a good
indication. I suspect there would be a lot more if a focus on cycads could
be worked out.

In my opinion, and that's all it is, I believe there are too many
forum/sub-forum topics already, so the addition of another would only
clutter up the existing clutter.

The current forums and sub-forums are:

DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Identification, Cultivation, Landscaping, General Interest

PALMAS Y PALMERAS EN ESPAÑOL (Spanish Forum)
El Foro de la IPS en Lengua Castellana

IPS BIENNIALS
Special Adventures

TRAVEL LOGS
Palms from local trips and exotic travels, Chapter Meetings, and Botanical
Gardens.

WEATHER / CLIMATE

FREEZE DAMAGE DATA
Share Your Experiences of Palm Hardiness

AFFILIATE NEWS AND MEETING DATES
Calender of Events

SHARE-A-SITE
Links to interesting and informative palm websites

PALM EXCHANGE
Palms/Seeds Offered and Located

TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than Palms

OHANA NUI - OFF TOPIC SUB-FORUM
IPS Friends and Family

MEMORIALS
Thoughts and memories of fellow members

ADMINISTRATION
Suggestions, problems, or questions related to the smooth operation of the
site.

PALMTALK BASICS FOR BEGINNERS

Surely some of these could be positioned underneath others. Time for
another poll, yay, I hear you poll lovers.

[bepah]

I hate to be a wet blanket and I do like cycads as well but it seems clear to me that this forum is dedicated to palms, not other plants. The other plants forum is sufficient, in my opinion, to meet the needs of supporting plants. For example, I just picked up a Ligularia tussilaginea gigantea, but I need no special forum for it to discuss it.

The debate seems to be over in any case, as the BOD of the IPS, is not interested in pursuing it.

[Dypsisdean]

You guys are missing the point. The IPS Charter, and all the paper work outlining how they operate in order to maintain their tax exempt status, is very specific. That is why some Directors have been opposed to any "talk" other than strictly palms. The only way around it would be to re-structure the IPS and make it the IPCS, and I don't think that is gonna happen. We have already stretched the envelope as far as possible to include the Tropical Plants section and Ohana Nui.

[freakypalmguy]

You guys are missing the point. The IPS Charter, and all the paper work outlining how they operate in order to maintain their tax exempt status, is very specific. That is why some Directors have been opposed to any "talk" other than strictly palms. The only way around it would be to re-structure the IPS and make it the IPCS, and I don't think that is gonna happen.

Actually, the IPCFNS, you forgot about the fruit and nut peeps.

[BS Man about Palms]

I'm with Bepah on this..

[_Wal]

The IPS Charter, and all the paper work outlining how they operate in order to maintain their tax exempt status, is very specific. That is why some Directors have been opposed to any "talk" other than strictly palms.

Ah ha ! Death and taxes, another example of their assuredness.

[Daryl]

I think the IPS should maintain a palm forum and the Cycad society should maintain a cycad forum. I've never been to their site, but do they have a palm sub-forum on theirs?

[_Wal]

I think the IPS should maintain a palm forum and the Cycad society should maintain a cycad forum. I've never been to their site, but do they have a palm sub-forum on theirs?

Why don't you come clean Daz, tell the people what you really think about cycads...

[newcal]

I think the IPS should maintain a palm forum and the Cycad society should maintain a cycad forum. I've never been to their site, but do they have a palm sub-forum on theirs?

Why don't you come clean Daz, tell the people what you really think about cycads...

Believe it or not Wal, Daryl has three cycads in his garden. People do make mistakes you know...

Cheers Mike Green (Newcal)

Edited by newcal, 16 July 2010 - 05:55 AM.

[Cycadcenter]

You guys are missing the point. The IPS Charter, and all the paper work outlining how they operate in order to maintain their tax exempt status, is very specific. That is why some Directors have been opposed to any "talk" other than strictly palms. The only way around it would be to re-structure the IPS and make it the IPCS, and I don't think that is gonna happen. We have already stretched the envelope as far as possible to include the Tropical Plants section and Ohana Nui.

It seems a bit strange to me that the IPS is so hung up on their Tax Status then surely they SHOULD NOT allow Chapters to be .......Palm and Cycad Societies

[Kathryn]

I agree that a cycad forum would be nice since a lot of palm enthusiasts also enjoy cycads. But, I also think that we have too many separate forums and cycad topics fit well in the "other plants" sub-forum.

[Dypsisdean]

You guys are missing the point. The IPS Charter, and all the paper work outlining how they operate in order to maintain their tax exempt status, is very specific. That is why some Directors have been opposed to any "talk" other than strictly palms. The only way around it would be to re-structure the IPS and make it the IPCS, and I don't think that is gonna happen. We have already stretched the envelope as far as possible to include the Tropical Plants section and Ohana Nui.

It seems a bit strange to me that the IPS is so hung up on their Tax Status then surely they SHOULD NOT allow Chapters to be .......Palm and Cycad Societies

Due to some of the same concerns, I am under the impression that the IPS does not officially have Chapters anymore - only Affiliates.

[Moose]

You guys are missing the point. The IPS Charter, and all the paper work outlining how they operate in order to maintain their tax exempt status, is very specific. That is why some Directors have been opposed to any "talk" other than strictly palms. The only way around it would be to re-structure the IPS and make it the IPCS, and I don't think that is gonna happen. We have already stretched the envelope as far as possible to include the Tropical Plants section and Ohana Nui.

It seems a bit strange to me that the IPS is so hung up on their Tax Status then surely they SHOULD NOT allow Chapters to be .......Palm and Cycad Societies

Due to some of the same concerns, I am under the impression that the IPS does not officially have Chapters anymore - only Affiliates.

Your impression is correct Dean!