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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Howdyall:

Here's a pic of a mature Ceroxylon ventricosum in Ventura, CA, and it's even better "in the flesh"  it's so much more silvery, it's hard to believe it's even a real palm, you have to touch it (it feels like it's been powdered with baby powder!)

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Bennz Experienced

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I cant wait until mine get that big, just got another 500 seeds a few months ago to go alongside my 50 or so 8 leafers.

Any idea how old it is? Also, what are temps/humidity/rainfall like where its growing?

Waimarama New Zealand (39.5S, 177E)

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summer 25C/15C

winter 15C/6C

No frost, no heat

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Dave-

I suspect Pauleens of course?

Bennz-

Assuming that is the one, Dave will have to answer the age part, but Coastal flat area roughly 6-8 miles from the coast. (maybe not even that far)

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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It is Pauleen's, and I don't have first hand knowledge of how old it is, but I've been advised it's in its thirties.

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IN its thirties? Thats impressive! Those kentias could be planted the same time then,...

So I ownder if I can expect mine to make that size in 30-40 years time? If so, I should be able to still be around to enjoy them (from vantage point of my zimmer frame).

Waimarama New Zealand (39.5S, 177E)

Oceanic temperate

summer 25C/15C

winter 15C/6C

No frost, no heat

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I'm trying to find climate data for Ventura. Looking on a mpa I see its near Oxnard, and I found the following temp. data;

http://www.weatherbase.com/weather/weather...s=019327&refer=

Is this anywhere near accurate for the loaction where this Ceroxylon is? Surprisingly cool for the latitude, I would have thought, but I can see how it would suit the species. I have little faith in weatherbase.com actually as a lot of the NZ stats are way of accurate, sometimes by as much as 5C. It can be hard ot find a good climate stat site.

Waimarama New Zealand (39.5S, 177E)

Oceanic temperate

summer 25C/15C

winter 15C/6C

No frost, no heat

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(Bennz @ Jul. 05 2006,18:54)

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IN its thirties? Thats impressive! Those kentias could be planted the same time then,...

So I ownder if I can expect mine to make that size in 30-40 years time? If so, I should be able to still be around to enjoy them (from vantage point of my zimmer frame).

Hi Ben

Ceroxylon  speed the growth with the size to  the  point that make an relatively fast growing palm.- The wait is for develope the base of the trunk.-

It is possible for us to plant them and to see them when monster.-Arent needed 3 lives as happen with Jubs.-

Ceroxylon will grow fine in your climate, not dry soil, not strong sun, not frost,  not extreme heat and with this an easy palm to grow.-

Cheers. Gaston.

Not freeze yet but very dry.-

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(Bennz @ Jul. 05 2006,19:34)

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I'm trying to find climate data for Ventura. Looking on a mpa I see its near Oxnard, and I found the following temp. data;

http://www.weatherbase.com/weather/weather...s=019327&refer=

Is this anywhere near accurate for the loaction where this Ceroxylon is? Surprisingly cool for the latitude, I would have thought, but I can see how it would suit the species. I have little faith in weatherbase.com actually as a lot of the NZ stats are way of accurate, sometimes by as much as 5C. It can be hard ot find a good climate stat site.

Hi Bennz-

 That looks fairly accurate to me. Ventura has heavy coastal influence.  I tried to find a link from Matts earlier post, but I took to long and gave up.

Bill

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Stan-

Itried to estimate once, but your 60' to tip of frond I bet is pretty close.

Also, the last time or two I was there the sign said it was a C. Quindiuense, but the descritions I've read lean toward Ventricosum.

Bill

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Bennz:

Come visit up here.

Pm me for my number.

dave

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Ceroxylon and for good measure Juana australis-another narrow temp range palm..In Oakland. That's in the eastbay.

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Stan--

Are the Juania supposed to be the two multi-stemmed plants, left & right?

If so, those ain't from the Juan Fernandez Isles as the monotypic genus is not clustering/clumping.

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RLR,as best as i remember that was what the label said. Just to make a guess,maybe it's just a multiple clump of seedlings.They might have decided to plant when very small and forgo dividing.I'm sure Darold Petty has the answer. Hello, Darold!

Behind them is one of the tallest Aussie tree ferns around here 12-14'?....

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wow those Juania really grew since the last time I saw them. The Ceroxylon's didn't though at the Oakland Palmetum.

I'm always up for learning new things!

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(Robert Lee Riffle @ Jul. 19 2006,06:43)

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Stan--

Are the Juania supposed to be the two multi-stemmed plants, left & right?

If so, those ain't from the Juan Fernandez Isles as the monotypic genus is not clustering/clumping.

RLR, those aren't multiple stems, those are the individual frond petioles.  Either there is no clear trunk yet, or the crown has been framed out of the pic.

Brookings, OR, Pacific Coast of USA at 42° N.  Temperate rainforest climate, USDA Zone 9b, juncture of Sunset Zones 5 and 17.

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I'll take your word on't, Steve.

After capturing/enlarging the pic I can see that the one on the left looks more like a single individual than does the one on the right.

If they are, indeed, Juania, they are the largest I've ever seen planted.   Have seen a number of mature ones in habitat (photos).

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Dave, that Ceroxylon looks pretty close to the sidewalk.  Is the trunk all graffittized?  Exactly where in Ventura is this place, anyway (drove around there after visiting you and never saw it).

Brookings, OR, Pacific Coast of USA at 42° N.  Temperate rainforest climate, USDA Zone 9b, juncture of Sunset Zones 5 and 17.

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Steve,

 When I went there for the first time, I could spot it 3 blocks away.  I couldn't tell you how to get there, but its fairly close to a shopping mall, less than 5 mins off the freeway.

Bill

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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The Juania australis at the Lakeside Palmetum were  donated by Brad Carter in 1992.  The 5 seedling plants were pot grown until their planting in 1997.  All 5 have survived to date.  By far, the largest Juania is at the SF Botanical Garden, it looks to produce real trunk soon.   This plant is just a few meters away from the two Ceroxylon quindiuense.  The larger Ceroxylon has 6m of real trunk (20feet).l

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San Francisco, California

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Can anyone give me an idea of the relative age of the plams in the original post? I ahve sen pictures of this planting before focused on the Dypsis decipiens, and the Ceroxylon was much smaller. Is it possible the palms are anywhere near a similar age, or is the Ceroxylon a lot older? If they are a similar age, then what a growth rate!

Waimarama New Zealand (39.5S, 177E)

Oceanic temperate

summer 25C/15C

winter 15C/6C

No frost, no heat

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Doinking this, anyone been to Pauleen's holy church lately?

Taking a deep breath for a good, loud, scream.

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20 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

Doinking this, anyone been to Pauleen's holy church lately?

Taking a deep breath for a good, loud, scream.

I have never been there even once, but I have seen the pictures, and I am a devoted follower!

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Yup

been der and done dat :) 

When I drive through the area I always stop in for a visit

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Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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obscenities well-screamed

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1 minute ago, DoomsDave said:

obscenities well-screamed

Lol

im sure you did ;) 

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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Im sure some may disagree but that trithrinax campestris is the most impressive palm in these photos. 

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