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#1 Eric in Orlando

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 06:27 AM

I have compiled a report on the cold damage to the tropical and subtropical trees in the collection here at Leu Gardens. Some trees are listed twice as one specimen may have been injured and another of the same species growing elsewhere in the Garden was uninjured.


NO DAMAGE

Acacia confusa
Acacia farnesiana
Acacia maidenii
Acacia nilotica ssp. tomentosa
Acacia sieberiana- PAPERBARK ACACIA
Acacia sphaerocephala- BULLHORN ACACIA
Acacia xanthophloea- FEVER TREE
Acrocarpus fraxinifolius- SHINGLE TREE
Adansonia digitata- BAOBAB TREE
Albizia procera
Albizia sinaloensis
Aleurites moluccanus-CANDLENUT TREE
Aloysia virgata-SWEET ALMOND BUSH
Aristolochia arborea
Azadirachta indica-NEEM TREE
Bauhinia x blakeana- HONG KONG ORCHID TREE
Bauhinia bartlettii
Bauhinia bowkeri
Bauhinia divaricata
Bauhinia forficata- THORNY ORCHID TREE
Bauhinia grandidieri
Bauhinia hookeri
Bauhinia macranthera
Bauhinia mexicana
Bauhinia petersiana
Bauhinia purpurea
Bauhinia roxburghiana
Bauhinia rufescens
Bauhinia tarapotensis
Bauhinia variegata ‘Candida’- WHITE ORCHID TREE
Bolusanthus speciosus
Bombax ceiba- RED SILK COTTON TREE
Bougainvillea arborea
Brachychiton acerifolius- FLAME TREE
Brachychiton australis
Brachychiton bidwillii
Brachychiton rupestris- BOTTLE TREE
Brossimum alicastrum- BREADNUT TREE
Buckinghamia celsissima- IVORY CURL TREE
Buddleja madagascariensis
Bursera fagaroides
Bursera filicifolia
Bursera grandifolia
Bursera microphylla
Bursera simaruba- GUMBO LIMBO
Bursera xochiplaensis
Caesalpinia ferrea- LEOPARD TREE
Caesalpinia mexicana- MEXICAN POINCIANA
Caesalpinia platyloba
Calliandra haematocephala- POWDERPUFF
Calliandra houstoniana
Calliandra parvifolia
Calliandra riparia
Calliandra surinamensis- PINK POWDERPUFF
Calliandra tweediei
Callistemon brachyandrus
Callistemon citrinus- LEMON BOTTLEBRUSH
Callistemon citrinus ‘Jeffersi’- PURPLE BOTTLEBRUSH
Callistemon comboynensis- CLIFF BOTTLEBRUSH
Callistemon linearis
Callistemon pallidus ‘Eleanor’
Callstemon paludosus- PINK BOTTLEBRUSH
Callistemon phoeniceus
Callistemon pinifolius
Callistemon polandii-GOLDTIP BOTTLEBRUSH
Callistemon rigidus
Callistemon salignus- WHITE BOTTLEBRUSH
Callistemon speciosus
Callistemon subulatus
Callistemon viminalis- WEEPING BOTTLEBRUSH
Cassia excelsa
Cassia fistula- GOLD SHOWER TREE
Cassia grandis- PINK SHOWER TREE
Cassia leptophylla- GOLD MEDALLION TREE
Cassia siamensis
Castanospermum australe
Ceiba aesculifolia
Ceiba aesculifolia ssp. parvifolia
Ceiba brevifolia
Ceiba chodatii ‘Sunset’ YELLOW FLOSS SILK TREE
Ceiba crispifolia ‘Sugar Loaf’- FLOSS SILK TREE
Ceiba insignis- WHITE FLOSS SILK TREE
Ceiba speciosa- FLOSS SILK TREE
Ceiba speciosa (spineless form)
Ceiba speciosa ‘Angel’
Ceiba speciosa ‘Midwest’
Ceiba speciosa ‘Variegata’
Ceiba ‘Kampong’
Ceiba ‘McDonald’
Ceiba ‘Scott Cohen’
Ceiba ‘Tem’
Ceiba ‘Willis Jr.’
Ceiba ‘Willis Red’
Ceiba hybrid (C. insignis x C. speciosa x C. chodatii)
Chrysophyllum oliviforme- SATINLEAF
Cinnamomum aromaticum- CHINESE CINNAMON
Coccoloba diversifolia- PIGEON-PLUM
Coccoloba uvifera- SEAGRAPE
Colophospermum mopane
Cordia boissieri
Cordia superba
Corymbia citiodora (Eucalyptus)- LEMON GUM
Cybistax antisyphilitica- GREEN TRUMPET TREE
Dalbergia sisoo
Delonix pumila
Dichrostachys cinerea- SICKLEBUSH
Dimocarpus longan ‘Kohala’- LONGAN TREE
Ebenopsis ebano- TEXAS EBONY
Elaeagnus triflora ‘Silver King’ - LINGARO
Enterolobium contortisiliquum- EAR TREE
Erythrina crista-galii- CORAL TREE
Erythrina speciosa
Eucalyptus deglupta- RAINBOW EUCALYPTUS
Eucalyptus polyanthemos
Eucalyptus quadrangulata
Falcataria moluccana (Albizia falcata)
Ficus altissima- LOFTY FIG
Ficus altissima ‘Snowstorm’
Ficus altissima ‘Variegata’
Ficus aurea- STRANGLER FIG
Ficus benjamina var. nuda- WEEPING FIG
Ficus benghalensis- BANYAN TREE
Ficus destruens- DESTROYER FIG
Ficus lutea- WEST AFRICAN RUBBER TREE
Ficus macrophylla- MORETON BAY FIG
Ficus microcarpa ‘Green Gem’- LAUREL FIG
Ficus religiosa- BO FIG
Ficus rubiginosa
Ficus salicaria (nerifolia)NARROW LEAF FIG
Ficus virens
Flindersia australis
Gigasiphon macrosiphon
Grevillea banksii
Grevillea robusta- SILKY-OAK
Harpullia pendula
Havardia pallens
Jacaranda cuspidifolia
Jacaranda mimosifolia
Lagunaria patersonia- NORFOLK ISLAND HIBISCUS TREE
Lonchocarpus capassa
Lonchocarpus violaceus
Lophostemon confertus- BRUSHBOX
Lysiloma sabicu
Lysiloma watsonii
Macadamia integrifolia- MACADAMIA NUT
Macadamia ‘Beaumont’
Magnolia x alba (Michelia)- WHITE CHAMPACA
Magnolia x alba ‘Golden’ (Michelia)
Magnolia champaca (Michelia)- CHAMPACA
Magnolia coco
Magnolia lilifera (Talauma candollei)
Magnolia lilifera var. ovata (Talauma hodgsonii)
Magnolia sirindhorniae (Michelia)
Magnolia ‘Pure Joi’ (Michelia)
Manilkara zapota- SAPODILLA TREE
Markhamia lutea
Markhamia zanzibarica
Melaleuca alternifolia
Melaleuca linariifolia
Moringa oleifera- HORSERADISH TREE
Murraya koenigii- CURRYLEAF
Myrciaria cauliflora- JABOTICABA
Ochna serrulata
Operculicarya decaryi
Persea americana ‘Winter Mexican’- AVOCADO
Phyllanthus juglandifolius
Peltophorum africanum
Peltophorum dasyrhachis
Peltophorum dubium- YELLOW POINCIANA
Peltophorum pterocarpum- COPPERPOD TREE
Pittosporum resiniferum
Plumeria tuberculata
Polyalthia longifolia- ASHOKA TREE
Pseudobombax ellipticum ‘Album’- WHITE SHAVING BRUSH TREE
Pseudobombax palmeri
Psidium cattleianum- CATTLEY GUAVA
Pterogyne nitens- VIRARO TREE
Pterospermum acerifolium- BAYUR TREE
Pterospermum diversifolium
Pterygota alata (Sterculia alata)
Radermachera ignea
Radermachera sinica- CHINADOLL TREE
Rauvolfia caffra
Sapindus detergens- SOAP NUT TREE
Schefflera heptaphylla
Schizolobium parahyba- FERN TREE
Schotia brachypetala
Senna splendida
Sesamothamnus lugardii
Simarouba glauca- PARADISE TREE
Stenocarpus sinuatus- FIREWHEEL TREE
Sterculia appendiculata
Sterculia foetida
Swietenia mahagoni- WEST INDIAN MAHOGANY
Syzygium paniculatum- AUSTRALIAN BRUSHCHERRY
Tabebuia alba
Tabebuia aurea- SILVER TRUMPET TREE
Tabebuia bahamensis
Tabebuia chrysotricha- GOLDEN TRUMPET TREE
Tabebuia heptaphylla- PURPLE TRUMPET TREE
Tabebuia impetiginosa- PINK TRUMPET TREE
Tabebuia impetiginosa ‘Alba’- WHITE TRUMPET TREE
Tabebuia impetiginosa ‘Lake Placid’- PURPLE TRUMPET TREE
Tabebuia impetiginosa ‘Naples White’- WHITE TRUMPET TREE
Tabebuia rosea- ROSY TRUMPET TREE
Tabebuia roseoalba- WHITE TRUMPET TREE
Tabebuia umbellate- YELLOW TRUMPET TREE
Tabebuia impetiginosa x chrysotricha
Tectona grandis- TEAK TREE
Tipuana tipu- TIPU TREE
Trevesia palmata
Trichilia emetica- AFRICAN MAHOGANY TREE


MINOR to MODERATE DAMAGE

Acacia holosericea (leaf burn)
Aglaia odorata- PERFUME BUSH
Albizia niopoides (in a protected location)
Artocarpus heterophyllus- JACKFRUIT
Artocarpus hypargyraeus
Averrhoa carambola ‘B-10’- STARFRUIT
Avicenna germinans- BLACK MANGROVE (leaf burn)
Bauhinia acuminata
Bombax ceiba – RED SILK COTTON TREE
Bulnesia arborea
Caesalpinia yucatanensis
Cassia x nealiae ‘Queen’s Hospital White’- WHITE SHOWER TREE
Ceiba chodatii- YELLOW FLOSS SILK TREE
Ceiba pentandra- KAPOK TREE
Ceiba pubiflora
Cecropia peltata- SNAKEWOOD
Clusia rosea (leaf burn)
Coccoloba uvifera- SEAGRAPE
Colvillea racemosa
Delonix elata- WHITE POINCIANA
Delonix regia- ROYAL POINCIANA
Derris ovalifolia (Millettia)
Elaeocarpus grandiflorus
Enterolobium cyclocarpum- EARPOD TREE
Ficus auriculata- ROXBURG FIG (leaf burn)
Ficus cyathistipula
Ficus hispida
Ficus lyrata- FIDDLELEAF FIG
Ficus natalensis ssp. leprieurii (triangularis)- TRIANGLE FIG
Ficus palmeri
Ficus petiolaris
Garcinia benthamii- HIMALAYAN MANGOSTEEN (leaf burn)
Gliricidia sepium- MADRE DE CACAO
Gmelina arborea- SNAPDRAGON TREE
Khaya nyasica- AFRICAN MAHOGANY
Kigelia africana- SAUSAGE TREE (leaf burn)
Lagunicularia racemosa- WHITE MANGROVE
Litchi chinensis ‘Mauritius’- LYCHEE TREE (leaf burn)
Maniltoa grandiflora
Memecylon ovatum
Metrosideros collina ‘Springfire’
Newbouldia laevis- BORDER TREE
Pachira aquatic
Persea americana (seedling)- AVOCADO (leaf burn)
Phaleria octandra
Plumeria obtusa
Plumeria rubra f. tricolor
Pseudobombax ellipticum- PINK SHAVING BRUSH TREE
Psidium guajava- GUAVA
Quararibea funebris
Rhizophora mangle- RED MANGROVE (leaf burn)
Schefflera actinophylla (leaf burn)
Schefflera actinophylla ‘Amate’ (leaf burn)
Schefflera elegantissima- FALSE ARALIA
Schefflera pueckleri (leaf burn)
Senna quinquangulata
Syzygium jambos- ROSE-APPLE
Talipariti tiliaceum (Hibiscus tiliaceus)- MAHOE
Talipariti tiliaceum ‘Tricolor’ (Hibiscus tiliaceus)
Triplaris cumingiana



SEVERE DAMAGE

Acacia collinsii- BULLHORN ACACIA
Adansonia digitata- BAOBAB TREE
Adansonia fony
Adansonia grandidieri
Adansonia greggorii – AUSTRALIAN BAOBAB TREE
Adansonia madagascariensis
Adansonia rubrostipa
Adansonia za
Albizia niopoides (in an open location)
Bixa orellana- LIPSTICK TREE
Caesalpinia pluviosa var. peltophoroides
Cananga odorata- YLANG YLANG TREE
Cassia bakeriana- PINK SHOWER TREE
Cinnamomum verum- CINNAMON TREE
Erythrina variegate- SUNSHINE TREE
Ficus aspera ‘Parcellii’- MOSAIC FIG
Hevea brasiliensis- RUBBER TREE
Jacaranda jasminoides
Lagerstroemia calyculata
Lagerstroemia loudonii
Lagerstroemia macrocarpa
Lagerstroemia speciosa- QUEEN CREPE MYRTLE
Lagerstroemia speciosa ‘Alba’
Mangifera indica ‘Carrie’- MANGO
Mangifera indica ‘Keitt’- MANGO
Meliococcus bijugatus- SPANISH LIME
Moringa drouhardii
Moringa stenopetala
Oroxylum indica- MIDNIGHT HORROR TREE
Plumeria rubra f. lutea
Solanum wrightii- PURPLE POTATO TREE
Stemmadenia litoralis- MILKY WAY TREE
Tamarindus indica- TAMARIND
Uncarina grandidieri



KILLED

Albizia saman (Samanea saman)- RAIN TREE
Bauhinia pottsii var. mollissima
Bunchosa argentea- PEANUTBUTTER FRUIT
Caesalpinia granadillo- BRIDAL VEIL TREE
Cananga odorata var. fruticosa- DWARF YLANG YLANG
Cassia emarginata
Cavanillesia platanifolia- QUIPO TREE
Chloroleucon tortum (Pithecellobium)
Chrysophyllum oliviforme- SATINLEAF
Clusia guttifera
Clusia orthoneura
Coccoloba pubescens
Coccoloba rugosa
Cola nitida- KOLA NUT
Commiphora africana
Cordia lutea
Cordia sebestana- GEIGER TREE
Delonix decaryi
Delonix elata
Delonix floribunda
Elaeophorbia drupifera
Ficus dammaropsis
Ficus kingiana
Fillicium decipiens- FERN TREE
Gnetum gnemon
Couroupita guianensis- CANNONBALL TREE
Gyrocarpus americanus ssp. tomentosus
Heriteria littoralis- LOOKING GLASS TREE
Ixora longistipula
Kopsia fruticosa
Lagerstroemia floribunda
Lagerstroemia speciosa ‘Nong Nooch Pink’
Lagerstroemia thorelli
Lagerstroemia tomentosa
Macaranga grandifolia- CORAL TREE
Miconia calvescens
Mutingia calabura
Pachycormus discolor
Pimenta dioica- ALLSPICE TREE
Pimenta racemosa- BAYRUM TREE
Pimenta racemosa var. citrifolia- LEMON BAYRUM TREE
Plumeria pudica
Plumeria stenophylla
Pseudosamanea cubana (Albizia)
Senna surratensis- SCRAMBLED EGG TREE
Spathodea campanulata- AFRICAN TULIP TREE
Sterculia apetala
Sterculia ceramica
Sterculia rogersii
Tabernaemontana pachysiphon
Talipariti tiliaceum ‘Tricolor’ (Hibiscus tiliaceus)- MAHOE
Terminalia catappa- TROPICAL ALMOND
Thespesia lampas
Thespesia populnea- PORTIA TREE
Xanthostemon chrysanthus- GOLDEN PEMBA TREE
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 06:47 AM

Eric--

Very interesting slice of info here, though I'm sure it was painful to compile.

One thing I think people need to be reminded of though is that Leu is a rather large place with lots of microclimates and trees/shrubs of varying ages. Just because a specimen may have been killed here (or survived unscathed) doesn't necessarily translate directly into "tender" (or "hardy", as the case may be) elsewhere under other circumstances. Still, it is very interesting nonetheless.

What sort of temp variation (minimums) did you see between various thermometers around the Garden on any individual cold night?
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 06:59 AM

First of all-what an incredible collection Eric! And thanks for all of this information-there are several surprises on that list-trees that made ti thru SoCal's big freeze of 07 fared worse for you, such as Spathodas, D. floribunda,F. dammaropsis,etc... Also surprised that your Caes. peltophoroides was damaged, but as Ken said, there must be some microclimates there.
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 08:10 AM

First of all-what an incredible collection Eric! And thanks for all of this information-there are several surprises on that list-trees that made ti thru SoCal's big freeze of 07 fared worse for you, such as Spathodas, D. floribunda,F. dammaropsis,etc... Also surprised that your Caes. peltophoroides was damaged, but as Ken said, there must be some microclimates there.


Peter--

That's another important point I failed to mention-- the damage is always greater in areas when trees haven't had a chance to harden wood (typical in SoCal, less likely in Florida). This is especially true of pulpier species like Spathodea. Indeed, some species on Eric's list-- Spathodea, Lagerstroemia speciosa, Cassia fistula, Delonix regia-- survived at Fullerton Arboretum during the '07 freeze, seeing upper 20sF totally unscathed. But they had some time to harden-off first.
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 08:19 AM

Eric--

How did your Senna polyphylla do? Interesting that S. surratensis was a goner.

And I'm surprised too by no damage to Ficus benjamina. Lots of large (30'+) trees a couple of blocks from the water in Pinellas were killed to the ground.
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 09:48 AM

Eric, Incredible list and information.
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 12:05 PM

Here is info on the winter temperatures we experienced and recorded here at Leu Gardens. I cut and pasted from the report on posted on the damage to the palms a few weeks ago;


The winter of 2009-2010 was a record setting for the duration of cool and cold weather. December was very warm but it turned cold in early January. The absolute low was only 29F but the duration of cold in January set records. February and March was also much cooler than normal. Many plants did not show much injury for several weeks and slowly started to decline thereafter.
Here are the stats for the cold spell in January. On the night (Jan. 10) it dropped to 29F it was below freezing for an amazing 12 hours. Also the nights of Jan. 10 and 11 had very heavy frost in the open areas. February had no below freezing nights but there were quite a few nights in the mid 30sF to the low 40sF and highs only in the 50sF.

Jan. 1 68/47
Jan. 2 58/39
Jan. 3 47/36
Jan. 4 52/33
Jan. 5 47/35
Jan. 6 50/31
Jan. 7 61/30
Jan. 8 59/38
Jan. 9 41/31

Jan. 10 45/29
32F- 9:30pm
31F- 10:30pm
30F- 1:15am
29F- 5:45am
30F- 9:00am
31F- 9:15am
32F- 9:30am
33F- 9:45am
35F- 10:00am

Jan. 11 53/30
Jan. 12 58/32
Jan. 13 63/36
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 12:11 PM

Eric--

Very interesting slice of info here, though I'm sure it was painful to compile.

One thing I think people need to be reminded of though is that Leu is a rather large place with lots of microclimates and trees/shrubs of varying ages. Just because a specimen may have been killed here (or survived unscathed) doesn't necessarily translate directly into "tender" (or "hardy", as the case may be) elsewhere under other circumstances. Still, it is very interesting nonetheless.

What sort of temp variation (minimums) did you see between various thermometers around the Garden on any individual cold night?



No, not painful at all ! Maybe a bit discouraging but things grow back or get replaced. Unless its a catrostrophic, once-in-a-century freeze like 12/89, I don't worry or sweat it. What makes it, makes it !

Yes, LG is 50 acres. We only measured temperature from the weather station we have set up at the main building. But to show you how temperature can vary look back to winter 2002/2003. We only had one night below freezing, in Jan. 2003. The official low for Orlando was 27F and that is what we recorded also. But we placed 15 thermometers around the property in open and protected locations. The lows ran from 26-35F with a majority at 27-28F so there is a big difference.
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 12:15 PM

Eric--

How did your Senna polyphylla do? Interesting that S. surratensis was a goner.

And I'm surprised too by no damage to Ficus benjamina. Lots of large (30'+) trees a couple of blocks from the water in Pinellas were killed to the ground.



Forgot Senna polyphylla. We had 2 planted out. The one out in the open was killed, another in a more protected location suffered leaf burn.

The F. benjamina is the variety nuda, the one with the much larger leaves. Its growing along the stream in a very warm pocket. We don't have any "regular" F. benjamina planted here. The ones I see around town suffered moderate to severe killback.
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 01:25 PM

Definitely a great list but also some very "odd" discrepancies from stuff I had planted in my yard -- here's the comparison (also from zone 9B) -- the notes after each one, in brackets, are the cold damage data from my yard:

No damage at Leu

Aleurites moluccanus-CANDLENUT TREE [KILLED]

Ceiba speciosa – multiple cultivars [two cultivars, 'USF' pink and a "special white" from Gardino's Nursery, severe damage -- both lost 80% of structure above the graft points but are growing back well]

Dichrostachys cinerea- SICKLEBUSH [killed back to roots but now regrowing well]

Eucalyptus deglupta- RAINBOW EUCALYPTUS [two trees -- one 12' & one 6' -- both lost all structure & were killed back to the roots but are now regrowing]

Lonchocarpus violaceus [killed back to roots but was a very small, recently planted tree -- now is slowly regrowing]

Ochna serrulata [killed back to roots but is now regrowing -- it did get frost impact and appeared to be completely dead -- it was a very late "recovery"]

Operculicarya decaryi [killed back to roots but now regrowing -- this one did not get any frost]

Pseudobombax ellipticum `Album'- WHITE SHAVING BRUSH TREE [is still completely bare but the trunk looks to be green/solid at ground level so it should grow back -- this was a very small, recently planted tree in a wide open location]

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Minor to moderate damage at Leu

Ceiba pentandra- KAPOK TREE [KILLED]

Elaeocarpus grandiflorus [KILLED]

Pachira aquatica [no damage -- planted under high live oak canopy]

Pseudobombax ellipticum- PINK SHAVING BRUSH TREE [killed to the roots -- now growing back but below graft point]

Talipariti tiliaceum `Tricolor' (Hibiscus tiliaceus) [killed to the roots but now growing back -- this was a very well-established tree that had not shown impact from previous cold weather events -- planted under oak canopy so no direct frost]

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Severe damage at Leu

Acacia collinsii- BULLHORN ACACIA [minor damage -- approx. 20% of branches lost leaves -- was exposed to frost]

Adansonia grandidieri [NO DAMAGE WHATSOEVER!!! Returned from dormancy with full re-growth from all branch tips -- and this was a tree that was planted late summer 2009]

Adansonia rubrostipa [SAME AS A. GRANDIDIERI -- no damage and also planted late summer 2009]

Uncarina grandidieri [Exposed tree was killed while tree that was under high canopy was not impacted at all]

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Killed at Leu

Chloroleucon tortum (Pithecellobium)- BRAZILIAN RAIN TREE [ANOTHER ONE WITH ABSOLUTELY NO DAMAGE -- ??? -- was under high pine canopy so most likely did not get any direct frost]

Cordia sebestana- ORANGE GEIGER TREE [killed to the roots but is now growing back -- what makes this "unusual" is that this tree was transplanted in Sept. 2009 to a frost-free location so it was not well-established at all]

Ficus dammaropsis [severe damage -- eventually lost all it's leaves -- now growing back well -- under oak canopy]

Spathodea campanulata- AFRICAN TULIP TREE [killed back to roots but now growing back very well -- same thing happened last winter]

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I think a couple of your success stories are quite note-worthy -- especially the Bursera simaruba and the Ficus macrophylla (I thought both of these were true zone 10+ trees).

Also, how long were the Caesalpinia granadillo, Couroupita guianensis, and Heriteria littoralis in the ground and what temps had they survived previously? (I'm trying all these in my yard this year)


Thanks,

Tim

Edited by ThunderSRQ, 07 June 2010 - 01:28 PM.

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 02:07 PM

Great info and thanks for taking the time to put it together. I wasn't surprised byt the Cordia, but was very surprised with all the Ficus species (except the F. aspera). Was there no leaf loss at all on these specimens?
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 02:54 PM

Definitely a great list but also some very "odd" discrepancies from stuff I had planted in my yard -- here's the comparison (also from zone 9B) -- the notes after each one, in brackets, are the cold damage data from my yard:

No damage at Leu

Aleurites moluccanus-CANDLENUT TREE [KILLED]

Ceiba speciosa – multiple cultivars [two cultivars, 'USF' pink and a "special white" from Gardino's Nursery, severe damage -- both lost 80% of structure above the graft points but are growing back well]

Dichrostachys cinerea- SICKLEBUSH [killed back to roots but now regrowing well]

Eucalyptus deglupta- RAINBOW EUCALYPTUS [two trees -- one 12' & one 6' -- both lost all structure & were killed back to the roots but are now regrowing]

Lonchocarpus violaceus [killed back to roots but was a very small, recently planted tree -- now is slowly regrowing]

Ochna serrulata [killed back to roots but is now regrowing -- it did get frost impact and appeared to be completely dead -- it was a very late "recovery"]

Operculicarya decaryi [killed back to roots but now regrowing -- this one did not get any frost]

Pseudobombax ellipticum `Album'- WHITE SHAVING BRUSH TREE [is still completely bare but the trunk looks to be green/solid at ground level so it should grow back -- this was a very small, recently planted tree in a wide open location]

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Minor to moderate damage at Leu

Ceiba pentandra- KAPOK TREE [KILLED]

Elaeocarpus grandiflorus [KILLED]

Pachira aquatica [no damage -- planted under high live oak canopy]

Pseudobombax ellipticum- PINK SHAVING BRUSH TREE [killed to the roots -- now growing back but below graft point]

Talipariti tiliaceum `Tricolor' (Hibiscus tiliaceus) [killed to the roots but now growing back -- this was a very well-established tree that had not shown impact from previous cold weather events -- planted under oak canopy so no direct frost]

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Severe damage at Leu

Acacia collinsii- BULLHORN ACACIA [minor damage -- approx. 20% of branches lost leaves -- was exposed to frost]

Adansonia grandidieri [NO DAMAGE WHATSOEVER!!! Returned from dormancy with full re-growth from all branch tips -- and this was a tree that was planted late summer 2009]

Adansonia rubrostipa [SAME AS A. GRANDIDIERI -- no damage and also planted late summer 2009]

Uncarina grandidieri [Exposed tree was killed while tree that was under high canopy was not impacted at all]

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Killed at Leu

Chloroleucon tortum (Pithecellobium)- BRAZILIAN RAIN TREE [ANOTHER ONE WITH ABSOLUTELY NO DAMAGE -- ??? -- was under high pine canopy so most likely did not get any direct frost]

Cordia sebestana- ORANGE GEIGER TREE [killed to the roots but is now growing back -- what makes this "unusual" is that this tree was transplanted in Sept. 2009 to a frost-free location so it was not well-established at all]

Ficus dammaropsis [severe damage -- eventually lost all it's leaves -- now growing back well -- under oak canopy]

Spathodea campanulata- AFRICAN TULIP TREE [killed back to roots but now growing back very well -- same thing happened last winter]

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I think a couple of your success stories are quite note-worthy -- especially the Bursera simaruba and the Ficus macrophylla (I thought both of these were true zone 10+ trees).

Also, how long were the Caesalpinia granadillo, Couroupita guianensis, and Heriteria littoralis in the ground and what temps had they survived previously? (I'm trying all these in my yard this year)


Thanks,

Tim



Tim,

Ficus macrophylla is actually quite a tough tree - its a reasonably common tree around Hobart, Tasmania where I live, and my two small ones have laughed off 4 frosts so far this winter with temperatures between 0 and 1.5C (32 - 35F). Their natural range extends a fair way down the New South Wales coast which puts them a long way outside the tropics. I would consider them to be one of the hardier species of Ficus along with F. rubignosa.

While parts of Tasmania are Zone 10 on paper (purely from a min temperature perspective), the daytime temps in winter rarely rise above 13C (55F), so its not comparable to a zone 10 in Florida....more like San Francisco!

Cheers,

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Posted 08 June 2010 - 05:41 AM

Tim,

Wow what odd opposite results we had for some trees !

The Caesalpinia granadillo was planted last year, in May, it was about 5ft tall. I had previously planted one before in 1997 and it was killed after the winter of 2000-2001. In 12/2000 there was a night at 27,28, and 31F. It didn't recover.


The Couroupita guianensis was planted June 2002 and was about 9ft tall. It had froze to the ground after one night at 27F in Jan. 2003

The Heriteria littoralis was planted Oct. 2003 and had nver been injured by cold but it hadn't seen below the lower 30s in that time. It was around 6ft tall.[/b]
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Posted 08 June 2010 - 05:48 AM

Great info and thanks for taking the time to put it together. I wasn't surprised byt the Cordia, but was very surprised with all the Ficus species (except the F. aspera). Was there no leaf loss at all on these specimens?



All the Ficus not injured are growing near or adjacent to the lakefront and we are on the south/SE side of the lake so its a good microclimate. The other Ficus that were injured or killed were growing in more open/less protection locations. The Ficus kingiana that was killed is the one that has been mistakenly sold as F. dammaropsis. It has proven very tender in the past as it would get foliar burn in the mid/upper 30sF. Additionally, I was recently informed this myster Ficus is probably a species of Pourouma which is in the Cecropiaceae Family.
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Posted 08 June 2010 - 12:26 PM

Tim,

Wow what odd opposite results we had for some trees !

The Caesalpinia granadillo was planted last year, in May, it was about 5ft tall. I had previously planted one before in 1997 and it was killed after the winter of 2000-2001. In 12/2000 there was a night at 27,28, and 31F. It didn't recover.


The Couroupita guianensis was planted June 2002 and was about 9ft tall. It had froze to the ground after one night at 27F in Jan. 2003

The Heriteria littoralis was planted Oct. 2003 and had nver been injured by cold but it hadn't seen below the lower 30s in that time. It was around 6ft tall.[/b]



Thanks for that input Eric -- I have "high hopes" for these amazing tree species but time will tell if I'm able to keep them alive or not. All three will be under canopy protection so they won't get any direct frost and the H. littoralis will be under the oak canopy "blanket", so it might benefit from a little extra protection (the other two are under high/sparse pine canopy in basically full sun locations).
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Posted 08 June 2010 - 01:50 PM

Both the Couroupita guianensis and Heriteria littoralis were growing under high, bright tree canopy. I will try them again.
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Posted 08 June 2010 - 04:01 PM

How did any of the Brownea, Gustavia, Lecythis or Saraca species faired?? :unsure:
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Posted 08 June 2010 - 05:42 PM

KILLED AT LEU GARDENS ...................................................... DEERFIELD BEACH ARBORETUM

Albizia saman (Samanea saman)- RAIN TREE..............................................severe die back
Bauhinia pottsii var. mollissima
Bunchosa argentea- PEANUTBUTTER FRUIT
Caesalpinia granadillo- BRIDAL VEIL TREE
Cananga odorata var. fruticosa- DWARF YLANG YLANG
Cassia emarginata
Cavanillesia platanifolia- QUIPO TREE
Chloroleucon tortum (Pithecellobium)...................................................no damage
Chrysophyllum oliviforme- SATINLEAF....................................................some defoliation
Clusia guttifera
Clusia orthoneura.......................................................................partial defoliation
Coccoloba pubescens.....................................................................no damage
Coccoloba rugosa.........................................................................no damage
Cola nitida- KOLA NUT
Commiphora africana
Cordia lutea..............................................................................partial defoliation
Cordia sebestana- GEIGER TREE.............................................................defoliation
Delonix decaryi
Delonix elata.............................................................................no damage
Delonix floribunda
Elaeophorbia drupifera
Ficus dammaropsis
Ficus kingiana
Fillicium decipiens- FERN TREE.............................................................no damage
Gnetum gnemon
Couroupita guianensis- CANNONBALL TREE.....................................................defoliation (normal)
Gyrocarpus americanus ssp. tomentosus
Heriteria littoralis- LOOKING GLASS TREE...................................................no damage in nursery container
Ixora longistipula
Kopsia fruticosa
Lagerstroemia floribunda....................................................................no damage
Lagerstroemia speciosa ‘Nong Nooch Pink’
Lagerstroemia thorelli
Lagerstroemia tomentosa
Macaranga grandifolia- CORAL TREE...........................................................partial dieback
Miconia calvescens
Mutingia calabura...........................................................................no damage
Pachycormus discolor
Pimenta dioica- ALLSPICE TREE................................................................no damage
Pimenta racemosa- BAYRUM TREE................................................................no damage
Pimenta racemosa var. citrifolia- LEMON BAYRUM TREE
Plumeria pudica..............................................................................partial defoliation
Plumeria stenophylla
Pseudosamanea cubana (Albizia)
Senna surratensis- SCRAMBLED EGG TREE.........................................................no damage
Spathodea campanulata- AFRICAN TULIP TREE.....................................................defoliation minor die back
Sterculia apetala
Sterculia ceramica
Sterculia rogersii
Tabernaemontana pachysiphon
Talipariti tiliaceum ‘Tricolor’ (Hibiscus tiliaceus)- MAHOE
Terminalia catappa- TROPICAL ALMOND...........................................................partial defoliation
Thespesia lampas
Thespesia populnea- PORTIA TREE
Xanthostemon chrysanthus- GOLDEN PEMBA TREE....................................................leaf spots

200 Miles really makes a big difference.

Our Sarracas did fine with some leaf spotting. Gustavia did fine. Brownea had some defoliation. Amherstia had some protection but did fine with leaf spotting and still bloomed this April. As a matter of fact, many things bloomed for the first time this year or put on an unusually good display. The Bread Fruit got massacred.
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Posted 09 June 2010 - 04:59 AM

Jerry, what was your absolute low? Things did well down there for you !

Other than the breadfruit ! We had a breadfruit, breadnut, and a cocoa trees in pots in the greenhouse. A couple times the fuel ran out and the greenhouse got to about 38-40. The breadfruit was killed, the breadnut defoliated but came back and the cocoa had some scorched leaves.
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Posted 09 June 2010 - 05:01 AM

I forgot 2;

Conocarpus erectus, Green Buttonwood had no damage and C. erectus var. sericeus, Silver Buttonwood, was partially defoliated but has leafed back out.
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Posted 09 June 2010 - 06:07 AM

We don't have recording thermometers set up but I believe we never went below freezing. There is a public thermometer on the funeral home just a few blocks away that went to 33F. 35F was hit several times though. It was not the lowest temp that caused all the damage but the unusual length of the cold this year. On top of that, we had a very warm December which actually brought on an early spring for several trees, notably the T. impetiginosa, which bloomed for Christmas. The trees were growing like it was Spring and were surprised when Winter came roaring in.

The breadfruit was 15'-18' tall and killed to the ground. The Samanea pretty large also. It was about 30' tall and at least 50' wide. Only the central branch is sprouting suckers now. Funny thing is that I have one in my yard 3 miles to the west, that suffered no damage whatever. Mine is only about 10'-12' tall so I hypothesize that it was not tall enough to be in the freeze drying wind.
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Posted 31 August 2010 - 12:00 PM

Eric, did any of your Queen's Crape Myrtles pull through this summer? Thanks, Mike
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Posted 02 September 2010 - 11:16 AM

Eric, did any of your Queen's Crape Myrtles pull through this summer? Thanks, Mike



Of the tropical Lagerstroemia we are growing, this is what came back from the roots;

Lagerstroemia calyculata
Lagerstroemia macrocarpa
Lagerstroemia speciosa
Lagerstroemia speciosa
‘Alba’
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Posted 04 September 2010 - 01:18 PM


Eric, did any of your Queen's Crape Myrtles pull through this summer? Thanks, Mike



Of the tropical Lagerstroemia we are growing, this is what came back from the roots;

Lagerstroemia calyculata
Lagerstroemia macrocarpa
Lagerstroemia speciosa
Lagerstroemia speciosa
‘Alba’


Eric--

Good to see that the L. speciosa 'Alba' is still around. Hopefully some of the cuttings I took to Jesse Durko have rooted by now as well.
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Posted 04 September 2010 - 01:22 PM

I don't know how cold it got in Largo, but I yesterday saw two 20'/7m, 5" DBH Talipariti tilaceum 'Tricolor' (against building foundation, but in a hollow) at Central Park that froze to the ground. They're just coming back from the roots now.
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Posted 01 April 2014 - 08:00 PM

 

Great info and thanks for taking the time to put it together. I wasn't surprised byt the Cordia, but was very surprised with all the Ficus species (except the F. aspera). Was there no leaf loss at all on these specimens?



The Ficus kingiana that was killed is the one that has been mistakenly sold as F. dammaropsis. It has proven very tender in the past as it would get foliar burn in the mid/upper 30sF. Additionally, I was recently informed this myster Ficus is probably a species of Pourouma which is in the Cecropiaceae Family.

 

Eric--

 

 What Pourouma species was this tree? Did you ever retry it?


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 04:03 AM

Great info and thanks for taking the time to put it together. I wasn't surprised byt the Cordia, but was very surprised with all the Ficus species (except the F. aspera). Was there no leaf loss at all on these specimens?



The Ficus kingiana that was killed is the one that has been mistakenly sold as F. dammaropsis. It has proven very tender in the past as it would get foliar burn in the mid/upper 30sF. Additionally, I was recently informed this myster Ficus is probably a species of Pourouma which is in the Cecropiaceae Family.

Eric--
 
 What Pourouma species was this tree? Did you ever retry it?




I'm not sure what species of Pourouma it may have been. Chad at MBC had suggested that but I never heard what species.
Another possibility was Ficus casearioides.

I have never seen this plant again. Tropiflora had them several years ago as F. dammaropsis.
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