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Phoenix Sylvestris

wxman

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Anyone that has experience with Phoenix Sylvestris, I am wondering how fast they typically grow fronds given a typical environment of 80 to 85 during the day and 60 to 65 at night with ample water?

Thanks all!

Tim

Zone: 5b

Location: Wisconsin

January: 25F/9F

July: 83F/64F

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Tampa Scott Mentor

Tampa Scott

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P. sylvestris are very fast here in FL. Here are pics from 2002 and 2009 of my P. sylvestris.

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Here is a shot taken this morning. Sorry its a little dark, but its cloudy this morning.

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Jonathan Mentor

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P. sylvestris are very fast here in FL. Here are pics from 2002 and 2009 of my P. sylvestris.

Wow!!!

Thats crazy fast....

Cheers,

Jonathan

South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

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P. sylvestris are very fast here in FL. Here are pics from 2002 and 2009 of my P. sylvestris.

Wow!!!

Thats crazy fast....

Cheers,

Jonathan

My Phoenix sylvestris (that was sold to me as P. canariensis, until Kris made me see the light) is slightly larger than Tampa Scott's 2002 pic and it's about 7 years old, four years in my garden. For me, it's not crazy fast but a steady grower, and appears to be picking up some speed. Our temps are warmer than the one's mentioned but, it's starting to look really nice...after seven years. Peter

Peter

hot and humid, short rainy season May through October, 14* latitude, 90* longitude

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Whoa, that's fast, Tampa Scott!

(Even faster than the mules you sent me!)

Here in Cali, they grow about 1/3 that fast, because we don't get the warm weather year-round, just in the summer.

Still and all, pretty fast.

dave

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Here is a shot taken this morning. Sorry its a little dark, but its cloudy this morning.

Man thats unreal Scott! I justed planted a slightly smaller one last year - now I have an idea of the growth rate! Your yard looks great!

Bill

Zone 9A - West Central Florida in Valrico

East of Brandon and Tampa

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Thanks for the pics Scott. How many fronds per year does it push out? I probably have 3 to 4 months with highs in the 80s and lows in the 50s and 60s, so I would probably get 1/3 to 1/4 your growth rate. If I can equate that to fronds per year I have a ballpark estimate.

Tim

Zone: 5b

Location: Wisconsin

January: 25F/9F

July: 83F/64F

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P. sylvestris are very fast here in FL. Here are pics from 2002 and 2009 of my P. sylvestris.

Wow, that's fast. In spite of a horrible winter, mine easily doubled in size. I am guessing I'll get half of the growth rate in your pictures, but that is still fast.

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They are deffinatly crazy fast!!! I have one that is a monster like Scotts. I bought it at a big box storewhen it had 3-4ft of wood and only the emerging spear was green. It sat in a parking lot all summer wrapped in plastic and was bone dry. I took it home and w/ TLC it grew like a rocket!

Once they start developing a trunk you better stand back!!

Orlando, Florida

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Not sure how fast they are but here's one growing at my neighbor's house. It's super cool!

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Very spiky. The tip of every leaf hurts!

A great tall phoenix for tropical conditions, but with cold tolerance

Grows very tall. Can lean quite attractvely.

chris.oz

Bayside Melbourne 38 deg S. Winter Minimum 0 C over past 6 years

Yippee, the drought is over.

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Paul.

What min temps do you get at your place ?

Any prolonged freezes or are you in the more tropical part of Florida?

OK, I've just googled Tampa Florida Climate.

I guess it ain't gonna get too cold in your part of town !

Regards Andy.

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Bangor, Norin Iron Zone 9a Min temp normally around -3 Degrees C, rarely -6C. Only 2 x -2.0C so far, verging on 9b this year. No snow or Frost this Winter. Several just subzero's this year, lets hope it stays this way. Normally around 5C to 10C + in winter, with lots of wind & rain. Summers usually better, 20C to 25 C occasionally 25C to 28C, also quite humid being a coastal town

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Kris Grand Master

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Some visuals...:hmm:

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And this one is growing in our garden..

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They do grow fast here in south india,But comparing it,to the beauty of a date palm or a CIDP....:rolleyes:

Love,

kris :)

love conquers all..

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Here's mine. It should take off crazy fast, now that it's getting some trunk! Peter

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Peter

hot and humid, short rainy season May through October, 14* latitude, 90* longitude

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Phoenic sylvestris is very common in India. Well I have seen them plenty. Very nice ones are growing in Ranthambore National Park.

Alexander

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