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#1 JayW

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 04:31 PM

I had some issues with Scale this summer around a Sabal Minor and a small Sabal Palmetto. I've since mulched with Coffee grounds since I hear it works well with Cycads. Anyone else use it around actual palms for mulch? Here's a link talking about using if for Scale: http://www.cycad.org...Coffee-2007.pdf
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 04:39 PM

Absolutely. I collect used coffee grounds from work, dry them and sprinkle them around my palms, whether in pots or ground. I sometimes mix it into my potting mix. I also dry used teabags and sprinkle the tea leaves into my mix. Where I live in SW FL the soil is very alkaline which most palms hate. The acids in the coffee grounds neutralize alkalinity and enrich my lousy soil. Tea and coffee grounds have substances that promote plant growth and health, as well as repelling pests. Just skip the cream and sugar.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 04:50 PM

I am sold. My wife and I drink coffee like a couple of banshees. And don't forget that its great for recycling as well.

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 04:51 PM

This has been the topic of discussion a few times here. Coffee grounds are an excellent organic source of micronutrients that adds acid to our alkaline soils, where appropriate. Starbucks has a program that is called "Grounds for the Gardener" and routinely packages grounds in foil bags that hold up to 5 pounds. Not all Starbucks participate, as it is up to the individual manager of that store.

I literally throw the grounds all over the palms and cycads, some of which land right into the apex of the cycad. It also helps repel snails, slugs, mites, aphids, and scale.

In addition, it adds a nice coffee scent in the garden...if you like coffee!

Try it!
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 05:13 PM

Most definitely. I religiously used them around one of my Chambeyronia's last year as a test and it is by far the best looking palm of the lot. Its high in nitrogen I believe. No real danger of burning the roots so you can basically apply as much as you see fit! However, I don't put too much of it in one area as it can create a barrier that impedes water.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 05:21 PM

I've actually been doing this for sometime and it works very well using my local Starbucks stuff. That being said. Sometimes I don't use the whole bag. When I get to it later (weeks) it often has some mold/fungus on the grounds. I've never put that ON my plants, I either put it into my green waste, or in the mulch somewhere. Any thoughts on the mold issue folks?:blink:
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 05:23 PM

Good! I feel better now knowing that's it's ok for palms as well as Cycads. I figured it was, but it's always nice to have some confirmation. I think I'm going to add some to my other palms tomorrow, even though they don't have any issues with scale.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 05:24 PM

I've actually been doing this for sometime and it works very well using my local Starbucks stuff. That being said. Sometimes I don't use the whole bag. When I get to it later (weeks) it often has some mold/fungus on the grounds. I've never put that ON my plants, I either put it into my green waste, or in the mulch somewhere. Any thoughts on the mold issue folks?:blink:


Tis fine to use the moldy coffee grounds I think. I ran into that problem on a number of applications and my Chambey didnt suffer one bit. Use at your discretion though!
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 05:52 PM

Decaf or Regular?
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 05:55 PM

Does anyone know if the benefits of coffee grounds diminish if the grounds are not used right away? (I've got some left-over from last summer that I got from Starbucks & I don't know if I should go ahead and use it or if they are no longer any "good").

Thanks...

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 05:59 PM

Does anyone know if the benefits of coffee grounds diminish if the grounds are not used right away? (I've got some left-over from last summer that I got from Starbucks & I don't know if I should go ahead and use it or if they are no longer any "good").

Thanks...

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 06:01 PM

Decaf or Regular?

Extra Strong! lol. In all seriousness. Doesn't matter. I collect mine from work so I get a variety of different blends, including tea. It all works out fine.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 06:12 PM

I've been using coffee grounds for years, especially the Cyrtostachys rendas. Peter
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 07:16 PM

I guess the only questions I would have are these:

What about the "flavored" coffees, since I am a fan of Hazelnut, and at times buy the pre flavored grounds. Are those OK / just as good?

The other question is, what about using on potted palms, and indoor potted palms? Good for the palms as well? Potted cycads as well?

Thanks!
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 07:25 PM

I used coffee grounds on some of my cycads that had scale and them and knocked the scale right out. I was thinking of adding the coffee grounds to my composter to kick it up a notch, but will it effect all the earthwoms my kids dug up and put in there for me? They seem awfull happy in there right now. (The worms, not the kids) :mrlooney:
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 07:34 PM

I guess the only questions I would have are these:

What about the "flavored" coffees, since I am a fan of Hazelnut, and at times buy the pre flavored grounds. Are those OK / just as good?

The other question is, what about using on potted palms, and indoor potted palms? Good for the palms as well? Potted cycads as well?

Thanks!


Figures a Capitals fan would drink "flavored" coffee (sorry I couldn't resist!) :D I don't know about the flavoring though, but I get about 10lbs a week from Starbucks & spread it around. It kinda offsets the $3.00 cup of coffee.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 08:14 PM

I guess the only questions I would have are these:

What about the "flavored" coffees, since I am a fan of Hazelnut, and at times buy the pre flavored grounds. Are those OK / just as good?

The other question is, what about using on potted palms, and indoor potted palms? Good for the palms as well? Potted cycads as well?

Thanks!


I've used hazelnut, french vanilla, etc all mixed up and slapped them in the ground. no ill effects. Palm liked it.

Potted palms...not too sure. Never tried but would probably work if some real soil was incorporated in the mix. Would prolly help to control any bug problems on potted palms though!
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 08:15 PM

I used coffee grounds on some of my cycads that had scale and them and knocked the scale right out. I was thinking of adding the coffee grounds to my composter to kick it up a notch, but will it effect all the earthwoms my kids dug up and put in there for me? They seem awfull happy in there right now. (The worms, not the kids) :mrlooney:


I tend to see more earthworms around the area I dump my coffee grounds in. They seem to like a pick me up also! lol
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 08:59 PM

Aren't we hilarious us palm people. We tend to our palms, get on International message boards and talk about them, fertilise them, worry about them when it's too cold/dry/hot etc, and give them a coffee every now and again. The coffee is probably good aromatherapy for them.

I'm going to have to try it in my garden. :D

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 09:25 PM


I guess the only questions I would have are these:

What about the "flavored" coffees, since I am a fan of Hazelnut, and at times buy the pre flavored grounds. Are those OK / just as good?

The other question is, what about using on potted palms, and indoor potted palms? Good for the palms as well? Potted cycads as well?

Thanks!


Figures a Capitals fan would drink "flavored" coffee (sorry I couldn't resist!) :D I don't know about the flavoring though, but I get about 10lbs a week from Starbucks & spread it around. It kinda offsets the $3.00 cup of coffee.



Hey now! I resemble that remark! lol! Not sure what it's supposed to mean, but I resemble it. :lol:


Does the Starbucks down there give the grounds away for nothing? Just curious because that program is news to me. I have not heard of any starbucks up here doing it.


And just for posterity, LET'S GO CAPS ! ! ! 12 wins in a row baby!!!! :yay: :greenthumb:
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 04:22 AM



I guess the only questions I would have are these:

What about the "flavored" coffees, since I am a fan of Hazelnut, and at times buy the pre flavored grounds. Are those OK / just as good?

The other question is, what about using on potted palms, and indoor potted palms? Good for the palms as well? Potted cycads as well?

Thanks!


Figures a Capitals fan would drink "flavored" coffee (sorry I couldn't resist!) :D I don't know about the flavoring though, but I get about 10lbs a week from Starbucks & spread it around. It kinda offsets the $3.00 cup of coffee.



Hey now! I resemble that remark! lol! Not sure what it's supposed to mean, but I resemble it. :lol:


Does the Starbucks down there give the grounds away for nothing? Just curious because that program is news to me. I have not heard of any starbucks up here doing it.


And just for posterity, LET'S GO CAPS ! ! ! 12 wins in a row baby!!!! :yay: :greenthumb:

I've been getting mine from Starbucks for free. They also seemed quite happy to be getting rid of it!
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 07:29 AM

I have been using coffee grinds. It seems to green up some palms. As a test, I took a beat up yellowed parlor palm and placed it in pure coffee grinds. It is three times the size in about six months and is now dark green. There are two problems: the coffee will stain clay pots and nonpainted surfaces and it attracts bugs.
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 09:18 AM

I've started adding it around one of my large P. sylvestris as it is being affected by the alkalinity of nearby (3 year old) poured concrete. Hope it works.
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 09:20 AM


I guess the only questions I would have are these:

What about the "flavored" coffees, since I am a fan of Hazelnut, and at times buy the pre flavored grounds. Are those OK / just as good?

The other question is, what about using on potted palms, and indoor potted palms? Good for the palms as well? Potted cycads as well?

Thanks!


I've used hazelnut, french vanilla, etc all mixed up and slapped them in the ground. no ill effects. Palm liked it.

Potted palms...not too sure. Never tried but would probably work if some real soil was incorporated in the mix. Would prolly help to control any bug problems on potted palms though!


Hey Thank you very much! How long have you been using the flavored grounds? Just curious.
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 09:36 AM

I used coffee grounds on some of my cycads that had scale and them and knocked the scale right out. I was thinking of adding the coffee grounds to my composter to kick it up a notch, but will it effect all the earthwoms my kids dug up and put in there for me? They seem awfull happy in there right now. (The worms, not the kids) :mrlooney:



The worms love it. I have a kitchen waste/worm farm and I throw the coffee grounds along with the filter in everyday.
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 10:03 AM

I used coffee grounds on some of my cycads that had scale and them and knocked the scale right out. I was thinking of adding the coffee grounds to my composter to kick it up a notch, but will it effect all the earthwoms my kids dug up and put in there for me? They seem awfull happy in there right now. (The worms, not the kids) Posted Image



BTW - I tried this on a cactus that had scale. No effect on the scale and but it did kill the cactus.
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 11:34 AM

DCA.........
Almost all the Starbucks here in Baltimore give away the free grounds; they're usually in a bucket right inside the door! I've used it on C Renda, L Mapu, C Borhidiana, A Catechu, etc. and others (all in pots) with good effects.
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 01:54 PM

im a huge fan of coffee grounds as a soil amendment. I often find worms right at the surface of the soil feeding on them. This helps trigger a process that will improve the natural health of your soil as the resulting worm "castings" are a nutrient rich organic fertilizer and soil conditioner.
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I had the pleasure of going to Tom Broomes place in January and saw his setup just as he wrote in the article, works great and is cheap!
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 02:11 PM

The coffee grounds work very well . I get them in ten pound bags from my daughter-inlaw, she works at a local starbucks .the are available to the all if you ask .just put them around palms and bananas the work into ground good luck
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I used coffee grounds on some of my cycads that had scale and them and knocked the scale right out. I was thinking of adding the coffee grounds to my composter to kick it up a notch, but will it effect all the earthwoms my kids dug up and put in there for me? They seem awfull happy in there right now. (The worms, not the kids) Posted Image



BTW - I tried this on a cactus that had scale. No effect on the scale and but it did kill the cactus.



Keith, the coffee grounds did not kill your cactus. That's like saying dirt and air killed your cactus. :huh:
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 03:27 PM

I use coffee and tea bags in my garden. I even throw the filters in the yard and they compost with my heavy mulch and yard waste.
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 03:27 PM

wow free coffee grounds from starbucks now i dont feel so bad buying a latte today asked on the coffe and they gave me all they had 8 bags full what a deal
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 07:52 PM

All of the organic kitchen garbage ends up in my garden. I don't drink coffee, but tea bags, orange, lemon, lime, watermelon, tangerine, papaya, etc. rinds end up there, as well as carrot tops, potato peels, rice-gone-bad in the fridge, feed Mother Nature, she'll feed you.
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 05:18 AM

I get used coffee grounds from the neighborhood Circle K. I use them on palms, crotons, hibs, bougies, allamanda - basically on everything. I have been noticing more earthworms, so maybe that's another benefit. I also use the grounds on potted plants as well, and they all seem to like it.

Scale, though, does not like it :winkie:


TikiRick said he uses coffee grounds - his palms, crotons and other plantings are so healthy and vigorous that the stuff must be very beneficial.
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 03:05 PM

I picked up another large bag of coffee grounds from Starbucks today... probably around 20 lbs... I thought the bag was going to burst!
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 03:18 PM



I used coffee grounds on some of my cycads that had scale and them and knocked the scale right out. I was thinking of adding the coffee grounds to my composter to kick it up a notch, but will it effect all the earthwoms my kids dug up and put in there for me? They seem awfull happy in there right now. (The worms, not the kids) Posted Image



BTW - I tried this on a cactus that had scale. No effect on the scale and but it did kill the cactus.



Keith, the coffee grounds did not kill your cactus. That's like saying dirt and air killed your cactus. Posted Image


Maybe it OD'd on caffeine. You ever drank So. Louisiana coffee? We call the stuff in other parts of the country coffee flavored water. Here, if your teaspoon stands up, its strong enough.
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#38 Tyrone

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Posted 06 February 2010 - 04:17 PM

I have been using coffee grinds. It seems to green up some palms. As a test, I took a beat up yellowed parlor palm and placed it in pure coffee grinds. It is three times the size in about six months and is now dark green. There are two problems: the coffee will stain clay pots and nonpainted surfaces and it attracts bugs.

It sounds like coffee has a lot of iron in it. From your comments it performs like iron sulfate or iron chelates. Just a thought.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 09:59 AM

Coffee grounds are great to use on our crappy South Florida Soils. Posted Image
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 02:48 PM


I've actually been doing this for sometime and it works very well using my local Starbucks stuff. That being said. Sometimes I don't use the whole bag. When I get to it later (weeks) it often has some mold/fungus on the grounds. I've never put that ON my plants, I either put it into my green waste, or in the mulch somewhere. Any thoughts on the mold issue folks?:blink:


Tis fine to use the moldy coffee grounds I think. I ran into that problem on a number of applications and my Chambey didnt suffer one bit. Use at your discretion though!

I love coffee grounds for the very same reasons already stated. What I have found with moldy grounds is that the insecticidal properties are greatly diminished--particularly for treating cycad aulacaspis scale. I would imagine that all of the other beneficial properties would not really be affected, though... and certainly it wouldn't be bad for the palms.

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