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Hybrids in Phoenix - other than the usual canariensis x dactylifera


Carlo Morici

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Also a friend has some P canariensis X rupicola here is a hhoto of them in his yard....

i believe i have these also or the other that chris posted except mine sucker and grow real fast. just took 4 nights in a row at 25,26,23, and 28F -in addition to full blast desert sun-with no problems.

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An update of my male hybrid phoenix in same topic. It has been crossed with a female genuine genuine reclinata and the progeny came out in two main forms. The one form is gracile and slower growing resembling more mother reclinata and the other form is robuster producing fast very deep roots resembling what? First couple pics of small form and next two of big form.

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Also a friend has some P canariensis X rupicola here is a hhoto of them in his yard....

i believe i have these also or the other that chris posted except mine sucker and grow real fast. just took 4 nights in a row at 25,26,23, and 28F -in addition to full blast desert sun-with no problems.

The one in your photo look like a canariensis x dactylifera cross and not canariensis X rupicola cross.... canariensis X rupicola crosses do not develop suckers....

Phoenix Area, Arizona USA

Low Desert...... Zone 9b

Jan ave 66 high and 40 low

July ave 105 high and 80 low

About 4 to 8 frost a year...ave yearly min temp about 27F

About 8 inches of rain a year.

Low Desert

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Cool Mtn climate at 7,000'

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Hi, i found this Phoenix in Nice (Provence), near airport. It look like dactylifera, but there's something special :) .

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A golden cocosphoenix?

5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

 

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On 3/20/2017, 9:09:53, Phoenikakias said:

Imho a poor Phoenix specimen on the verge of heavy nutrient deficiency if not death itself.

Sorry, this is not a Phoenix in bad health, it is a colourvariation which occurs in both canariensis and dactylifera. I have seen them in different locations in Spain (Llorett de Mar, Marbella, Torremollinos), but never in a nursery, so I am still searching for a young plant with this beautiful feature.

Wim.

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I love these two hybrids just down the road from me in Mexico City. They sit in the middle of a long avenue of P. canariensis and as P. roebelenii is the only other Phoenix I have ever seen here in Mexico City, I assume they're a hybrid between the two. Sorry for the bad lighting on the first pic. I don't think the first one is suckering, I think these are just seeds that have fallen and sprouted. 

This hybrid would be ideal for sheltered places in London where the microclimate is warm enough but P. canariensis is too large.

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On 10/19/2018, 9:47:07, Josue Diaz said:

Wondering if this could be the variant called Phoenix iberica

You could be spot on!

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On 1/20/2013, 11:29:43, Phoenikakias said:

An update of my male hybrid phoenix in same topic. It has been crossed with a female genuine genuine reclinata and the progeny came out in two main forms. The one form is gracile and slower growing resembling more mother reclinata and the other form is robuster producing fast very deep roots resembling what? First couple pics of small form and next two of big form.

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An update after ... 5 years. First a picture of the clump consisting of three individuals of the small form.

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Then a picture of the clump consisting of two individuals of the big form.

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Then a picture containing the 'whole' family.

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And a color comparison between sample leaves from both kinds

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Hard to believe that all plants originate from same seed batch!

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And for the sake of this topic's comprehesiveness I repost a picture of each of my two other phoenix hybrids growing in my garden.

reclinata x roebelenii

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loureiroi x roebelenii

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On 3/19/2017, 10:00:16, Phoenikakias said:

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And a bonus picture of the first maturing fruit on this hybrid specimen (roebelenii x dactylifera)

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a medjool date palm x a pygmy date palm looks so cool

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