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#1 freddie

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Posted 14 September 2009 - 08:52 AM

We recently had a load of soil delivered for setting up some flower beds. It's a garden blend, good quality topsoil enriched with chicken poo (mmmm, just lovely to roll in if you're a dog lol). But would it also be okay for palms? We're just about ready to put some palms in the ground and wondered if a shovelful of this mix at the bottom of the hole would be good? or not? Thanks!
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#2 DoomsDave

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Posted 14 September 2009 - 09:15 AM

As far as I know, chick poop (or pigeon, etc.,) is wonderful for palms.

Some, like Caryotas, really love it.

If you have access to a regular supply, use it.

ANd, take pictures and show us . . . . .
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Posted 14 September 2009 - 09:33 AM

As far as I know, chick poop (or pigeon, etc.,) is wonderful for palms.

Some, like Caryotas, really love it.

If you have access to a regular supply, use it.

ANd, take pictures and show us . . . . .


Why are you requesting a picture of chicken poop to be posted ? :huh: :wacko: :blink: :bemused: :mrlooney:

Ron. :lol:
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Posted 14 September 2009 - 09:36 AM

As far as I know, chick poop (or pigeon, etc.,) is wonderful for palms.

Some, like Caryotas, really love it.

If you have access to a regular supply, use it.

ANd, take pictures and show us . . . . .


Why are you requesting a picture of chicken poop to be posted ? :huh: :wacko: :blink: :bemused: :mrlooney:

Ron. :lol:


I can't wait for the response from BS Man about Palms when he finds this thread! :lol:
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Posted 14 September 2009 - 12:17 PM

As far as I know, chick poop (or pigeon, etc.,) is wonderful for palms.

Some, like Caryotas, really love it.

If you have access to a regular supply, use it.

ANd, take pictures and show us . . . . .


Why are you requesting a picture of chicken poop to be posted ? :huh: :wacko: :blink: :bemused: :mrlooney:

Ron. :lol:


Well, I meant the results, but what the heck . . . .

If it gets laughs, I'lll handle it . . . .

Kinda reminds me of uinintentionally comic church flyers and signs:

"Today's Sermon: Do you know what Hell is?
Come hear our choir practice"

"Weight Watchers enter through the double doors."

"Low self-esteen support group please enter through the basement door."

etc.
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#6 Walter John

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Posted 14 September 2009 - 12:20 PM

We recently had a load of soil delivered for setting up some flower beds. It's a garden blend, good quality topsoil enriched with chicken poo (mmmm, just lovely to roll in if you're a dog lol). But would it also be okay for palms? We're just about ready to put some palms in the ground and wondered if a shovelful of this mix at the bottom of the hole would be good? or not? Thanks!


Spread some at the top too, right under the deep layer of mulch you're laying.
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Posted 14 September 2009 - 05:00 PM

Freddie when I was just starting this garden I didnt know very much and only used pelletized chookie poo. I have many many plants, trees and shrubs as well as all my palms and all of them did well. Only the last 18 months or so have I started using blood & bone (which the pooches try to eat) and potash. I still add chookie poo to everything tho, even in pot plants. It's full of nitrogen and is organic. Being on black clay.....read concrete or chewie depending on the weather.....it has help to turn the clay into quite a good friable soil. I remain a big fan and devoted user.
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Posted 14 September 2009 - 05:13 PM

Well rotted chicken manure is great for palms. However it can be a bit of a problem on alkaline soils that have limestone etc as chicken manure can be a little high in pH.

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Posted 14 September 2009 - 06:07 PM

Thanks all for the thumbs up!

There's half a dozen huge poultry farms only a few miles from here so have easy access to tons of the stuff, either as a blend from the local landscape supply or straight up direct from the farms (also have 3 free range hens in the backyard but it's kinda time consuming following them around with a bucket)

And same as Peachy, we're on clay, concrete when it's dry that turns to soup the moment it starts raining. Palms seem to like it though, the gullies and creek flats down the back of our property are thick with big healthy specimens that ain't never been planted by anyone other than mother nature. Unfortunately, can't tell you what species they are - when palms come in a pot with one of those little white tags I'm the ID expert :rolleyes: otherwise I don't have a clue :blink:

Will post a photo of the chook poo shortly :D

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Posted 14 September 2009 - 06:15 PM

Here, chook, chook, chook....
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Posted 14 September 2009 - 06:26 PM

Freddie when I was just starting this garden I didnt know very much and only used pelletized chookie poo. I have many many plants, trees and shrubs as well as all my palms and all of them did well. Only the last 18 months or so have I started using blood & bone (which the pooches try to eat) and potash. I still add chookie poo to everything tho, even in pot plants. It's full of nitrogen and is organic. Being on black clay.....read concrete or chewie depending on the weather.....it has help to turn the clay into quite a good friable soil. I remain a big fan and devoted user.
Peachy


OK Peachy, just for us "Mericans" what the heck is a "chookie"? Some kind of unique animal to Oz?? :blink:
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Posted 14 September 2009 - 06:30 PM

Captain Cook chased a chook all around Australia
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Posted 14 September 2009 - 06:31 PM

Freddie when I was just starting this garden I didnt know very much and only used pelletized chookie poo. I have many many plants, trees and shrubs as well as all my palms and all of them did well. Only the last 18 months or so have I started using blood & bone (which the pooches try to eat) and potash. I still add chookie poo to everything tho, even in pot plants. It's full of nitrogen and is organic. Being on black clay.....read concrete or chewie depending on the weather.....it has help to turn the clay into quite a good friable soil. I remain a big fan and devoted user.
Peachy


OK Peachy, just for us "Mericans" what the heck is a "chookie"? Some kind of unique animal to Oz?? :blink:

Steve, I learned on an old thread around here that many Aussies call their chickens, "chooks, or chookies"

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."
"Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."
-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

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Posted 14 September 2009 - 08:49 PM

Steve, I learned on an old thread around here that many Aussies call their chickens, "chooks, or chookies"

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LOL, aussies generally don't use the common or grammatically correct word if a shorter or more colourful alternative can be found. So you get things like chook - chicken, goog - egg, snag - sausage, ridgy-didge - true, porky or pork pie - lie (fib), yarn - story or tale (often exaggerated somewhat by a few porkies), etc. Which leads to a unique and greatly reduced form of communication ie. Gonna throw some snags on the barbie this arvo after we sink a few coldies down at the rubbity - meaning "we are going to cook a pile of sausages on the bar-b-que this afternoon after we drink several beers down at the local public hotel.

This being the norm with all ridgy-didge Ockers anyway.

And I ain't spinning you no yarn, fair dinkum :D
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 04:36 AM

I have found a couple of Carpies growing VERY WELL near the chook pen... Scott thought I wouldn't notice.. <_< . See that is how good chook poo is.... until I get on my ride-on again...

Regards, Ari :)
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 04:55 AM

Here, chook, chook, chook....



Bill,

Do you know what a Chook Tractor is?


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Posted 15 September 2009 - 05:52 AM

Here, chook, chook, chook....



Bill,

Do you know what a Chook Tractor is?


Bruce


A pig?
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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

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"Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 06:17 AM

Here, chook, chook, chook....



Bill,

Do you know what a Chook Tractor is?


Bruce


A pig?



http://www.thechickentractor.com.au/
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 06:31 AM

Very nice thread and i love the humor... :lol:

In all my potting soil mix i often use bone meal,dried dead leaves(humas grade),very sparingly red soil,neam composite and washed river sand.the palms all grow like mad.Though i have accesses to cow manure i seldom use it since our dogs like to eat it.So our vet has advised not to use any organic manure in our garden.. :huh:

Lots of love,
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 11:08 AM

Here in the USA we use chicken products from Jongs in Riverside. they have one ton bulk bags available for direct pickup plus sell smaller bags in retail outlets.

http://www.grobetter...ex.php?cPath=22

In Australia we use Katek super growth

http://www.katekfert...-fertilizer.htm

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