Shipping larger palms from Fl...

[STEVE IN SO CAL]

How would one get larger plants(24" box) from Fl to Ca, whilst doing it legally? I was thinking of getting some people together and buying some plants..hopefully some of you socals would be interested in splitting shipping costs.

I would be interested in stuff that takes forever to get going here...Copernicias, Psuedophoenix, etc.

Also, can some of you Fl people give an idea on prices for palms this size? Assuming they would need to be shipped from a certified nursery?

[deezpalms]

I'm down for a few trees for the right price.

[tropicalb]

did someone say "road trip?"

one way air to Miami....in a rented Ryder, we clean Jeff out of all the good stuff, make a stop at Christians and pick up the Carpoxy's, etc.

i can see it now as we hit the Ag inspection station at the Cal border:

"Papers please?"

who's down?

p.s. no WAY could i do this...but it sure is FUN to think about...

[elHoagie]

I'm interested...

[DoomsDave]

Hmm.

If my addled memory still serves, the big problem is getting proper paperwork from the people in Florida that the Callians will accept.

We have an enormously wealthy and paranoid ag biz here (sadly, not without some good reason, e.g., Glossy-winged Sharpshooter)

That said, if you wanna give it a go, give it a go . . .

dave

[Jeff Searle]

Hey,send the truck. There's plenty of good growers,and plant material we would love to show you. Up in Palm Beach Co. you have Mike Harris(Caribbean Palms)and Dale Holton. In Broward Co. I'm located due west of the Fort Lauderdale area, and down south near Miami John DeMott(Redland Nursery) is located. And there are others. Love to show you around.

[STEVE IN SO CAL]

Jeff...are all of the above certified?

[Kris]

Dear folks  

Sorry for asking some stupid questions _

the topic appears to be on shipping of

large grown up speciman's of exocitic

palms that are grown in florida which are

desired in california.have i understood this

rightly !

But my question is what certificate are we

talking here ?

is cal not under U.S constutional jurisdiction ?

do they have different laws on plants,seeds,

live stock_Dave can help me understand this !

if so then it is a pathetic state of affairs you have

there,since in india we speak different languages

in different states but the central/fereral law

prevails over every state.this is adopted from the

british constution.

i have read that tourist from mexico,hawaii etc are

also restricted from bringing seeds into U.S why ?

even some normal plants are restricted by some U.S

states while some have relaxed seeds import laws_Why ?

iam very surprised seeing this indifference in state laws.

And instead of air or sea shipping why cant it be transported

through rail or roadways !

and the floridians nursery will they not give fitness

certificate to their plants consignements which they are

sending to California(Iam shure that it is for hollywood,

baverly hills,santigao,las vegas).making the place

appear even more beautiful ?

Please free my mind of the shipping doubts.

Love,

Kris(India).

[MattyB]

(....yawning.....eyes opening....head lifting...) Did someone say Copernicia?....Pseudophoenix?

[palmazon]

Kris - restrictions on agricultural commerce are generally imposed to prevent the spread of known pests or soil-borne pathogens

[Fred Zone 10A]

The following was posted recently on the Cycad Message Board:

"During the week of Oct. 19-25 California inspectors intercepted 69 pested rated A and Q [Quarantine].  Some of the pests are like The Red Imported Fire Ant, Purple Scale, Citrus Snow Scale and Diaprepes Root Weevil.  Twenty-three were from Hawaii and 6 from Florida.  Asian Scale was intercepted once.  Orange County found it on sagos from Hawaii."

This week there were two posts on that board about finding Cycad Aulacaspis Scale on sago palms at Home Depot stores in Southern California.

California's agricultural restrictions are there for a good reason.  Is it worth bringing in some of these pests just to save a few bucks on some palms?

[Dave-Vero]

Thanks for the post, Fred.  The diaprepes root weevil kills citrus, so you have to replant using a more resistant rootstock.  

Florida restricts quite a lot of imports from California.  Do I recall correctly that cycads have to come bare-root?

[Fred Zone 10A]

Do I recall correctly that cycads have to come bare-root?

I don't think so, since we see lots of Florida-grown Cycas revoluta in pots at our big box stores.  Maybe someone in the nursery business can confirm that.

What I do know for sure is that Cycad Aulacaspis Scale is a BIG DEAL.

[tikitiki]

I'm not above meeting somewhere in texas for a florida plam/ cali palm exchange. You guys have some larger species I can't find here.

[MattyB]

Like Fred said, don't bring in the bugs man!

[STEVE IN SO CAL]

(MattyB @ Nov. 09 2006,14:54)

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Like Fred said, don't bring in the bugs man!

Thus the "whilst doing it legally" comment.

Many truckloads of plants come to cal every day from fla...it just needs to be done right. I agree...fire ants in my plants would suck...

[MattyB]

Fire ants in your pants would suck too.

[epicure3]

OK....if you guys want to do it....I would be in for sure. PM me on how I can contribute. I would love to get a trunking coconut and see if I could keep a large specimen alive. That would probably mean a 40 gallon at least. I would be also interested in getting a large carpie or dictyopserma.

Let me know.

[redant]

(MattyB @ Nov. 09 2006,17:10)

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Fire ants in your pants would suck too.

Any day of the week I can show you fire ant bites on my body. It's a battle you never win. I'm so used to them these days it's like whatever, another 10 friggin bites, add them to the collection.

[spockvr6]

(redant @ Nov. 10 2006,09:40)

QUOTE

(MattyB @ Nov. 09 2006,17:10)

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Fire ants in your pants would suck too.

Any day of the week I can show you fire ant bites on my body. It's a battle you never win. I'm so used to them these days it's like whatever, another 10 friggin bites, add them to the collection.

HAHAHAHA!

I thought I was the only one.

Fire ants can never be eliminated it seems....only controlled.

[tikitiki]

(spockvr6 @ Nov. 10 2006,09:51)

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(redant @ Nov. 10 2006,09:40)

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(MattyB @ Nov. 09 2006,17:10)

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Fire ants in your pants would suck too.

Any day of the week I can show you fire ant bites on my body. It's a battle you never win. I'm so used to them these days it's like whatever, another 10 friggin bites, add them to the collection.

HAHAHAHA!

I thought I was the only one.

Fire ants can never be eliminated it seems....only controlled.

They never go away you just chase them from yard to yard. That reminds me I think its my turn. The good news is You get used to them.