COLD HARDY PALMS
Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.
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Decembers here, time to protect the trachys
by bronxboynyc71- 11 replies
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Hello to all I hope everyone had a great growing summer. I hope I did not jump the gun to early, but decided to make my mini green houses for my trachys. I wanted to give them extra protection this year, since its there first year in the ground. I don't plan on putting any lights or heat sources in the mini green houses. Plan on opening them when weather gets unusually warm. I installed vents on the top of the structures so moisture does not become a problem. This is my first year doing this kind of protection system, so any kind of advice or constructive critism is wanted. Thanks in advance Bobby
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Still a long ways away from placing any of these palms in ground, but I'm planning now-never too early I suppose! Ha. First, I know being in an 8A is a stretch for any 9A palm, but just wanted some advice for how I should place these palms in my backyard when the time comes. First, I've read up the basics on both of these palms. My question is where I should plant these palms and what would help in terms of their placement. For instance, I have a great spot up against my house that faces east. Winter time it gets less than 2 or 3 hours of indirect sunlight. In the summer time, sunlight time increases a bit, but still mostly indirect sunlight (as it shines through seve…
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Defibering my Trachy nainital :
by WSimpson- 9 replies
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I decided to see how much I could defiber this Trachy . I stopped when I started to see white on the trunk . Near the bottom of the trunk , where there is a color change , you can see that its fiber started to come off naturally . As the leaf sheath and its fiber is cut off , the trunk will start to get whitish the higher you defiber . I stop when I see it getting whitish because the white part of the trunk tissue is live tissue , even though the frond sheath and fiber may have been cut off over a year earlier . That whitish trunk tissue is moist and my theory is that by cutting too high up on the trunk I might be contrib…
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Definition of "Cold Hardy palm growing"
by Mauna Kea Cloudforest- 1 follower
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After spending some time on PalmTalk, I've come to realize that cold hardy means different things to different people. I've not posted much on the cold hardy palm forum because I viewed it as a forum for people who try to grow palms in non-palm climates like Kansas or the Netherlands, or where palms are uncommon, such as the Pacific Northwest or England. But more and more, I realize that for many, hardy palms is anyone trying to grow palms outside the tropics, Hawaii, far South Florida, and outside the mild coastal zones of Southern California. So should we be posting solely to this forum instead? Most of my topics get tagged "cold hardy" anyway. My zone maybe 10a, bu…
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Deformed Butia fronds
by palmhort- 5 replies
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I have had a Butia capitata in a pot for over a year here in zone 7a, Central NJ. During the summers it sits on my back patio mostly in full sun. Suddenly last summer the fronds that were emerging were deformed, short, fuzed together and looked bad. I thought it was a nutrient deficiency so I applied slow release fertilizer during the summer with no luck. I watered more, I watered less, I put it in full sun, part shade...nothing has helped. Has anyone seen this before? I hope it outgrows this soon! Thanks!
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DeFuniak Palm
by Swolte- 5 followers
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PDN is offering this palm and I couldn't resist giving it a try. There's very little information on web on this specific variety so please let me know if you have anything else! Here's the description from PDN: "This is a limited offering of seed grown plants from an odd, but well-known palm in the Florida panhandle town of DeFuniak Springs, spotted for its unusual character by a number of palm fanatics through the years. Thanks to Alabama palm guru, Hayes Jackson for sharing seed. Palm experts agree that the trunk looks like Sabal bermudiana, while the top more closely resembles Sabal minor var. louisiana. Some folks think it may be a Sabal minor x palmetto hybri…
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Delaware Palms
by Diamond State Palms- 1 follower
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Hi! I am a Palm grower and enthusiast from South Delaware. Contrary to popular belief there are tons of palms around here if you know where to look ! The pindo’s to my knowledge are a new thing the area is trying. There are three more across the street! Sabals have been in the ground for Atleast a few years (fourth year I wanna say, maybe more!) and are doing great. Of course I couldn’t forget the famous windmills! There are plenty other hardy palms in the area and I will continue to post as I can, thanks!
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Determining the temperature growing range of palm species
by Mauna Kea Cloudforest- 1 follower
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I'd like to start a meaty scientific discussion on what is the optimal temperature growing range for specific palms, and how to visualize that data in a useful manner that includes the photoperiod. This is not a topic for ADD Facebook style fly-by reading. You have to dive into this topic if you're interested in it. I've been playing around with a colored spreadsheet to visualize the temperature range. If you look at the chart below, you can look at the growing range, and then take a 10-15F photoperiod for ideal growth and determine if a palm is well suited to grow in your climate. For example, beccariophoenix alfredii has an optimal growing range between 60F a…
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Diagnosis help
by Matt123- 3 replies
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Hi all! New to the world of palm tree care and just need some expert advice. I recently acquired a few varied palm trees and one seems to be infected somehow - possibly mealy bugs? However someone has said maybe it’s fungus related? Appreciate any advice Matt
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Did I Loose All My Young Palms?
by Dave_E- 3 replies
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Hi Everyone, This past year I made the decision to keep my (14) 2 year old palms outside in the non-heated greenhouse over winter. Last year we brought them back inside and we suffered with gnats all winter. They had been outside in pots that drained well and they were all looking good. We had a week of really cold temperatures for our area… all the y way down to 9 degrees F. I completely forgot about the palms in the greenhouse and when I went out, this is what I found. Any chance they will recover? They are all back in the house at the moment. 😕 Dave
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The butia in the first two pics has almost no trunk and longer almost like ribbon like fronds. Purchased at York Palms in New Braunfels. while the last two pics the smaller palms seems to have more trunk with stiffer fronds. Purchased at Lowe’s and Home Depot.
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These 2 palms are side by side so it is easy , after a year , to see how the 6F cold last Christmas Eve affected them . The palmetto's bud area was damaged , and the spears pulled out ( multiple spears ) , and all the newest fronds that grew out look to have tip burn . The minor is a darker green and looks flawless except for that rainbow type damage on 1 frond . If I had had more cold , before that severe cold , that rainbow damage may not have happened due to the palm being more acclimated to cold . You can also see Trachy damage in the back right . I may leave that damage and have it form a skirt ? Any other thoughts ? Will …
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Different forms of Needle palm
by teddytn- 3 followers
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I remember seeing pictures of needle palms with a vertical solitary trunk and no lower fronds a long time ago. People were calling it a Bull needle. I’ve always been familiar with the “normal” clumping form which seems to grow wider with offsets as fast as it grows tall. I have one that’s been slow to grow period and only has a few small pups, but I don’t think is a “bull”. One normal clumping form and a small new clumping form. What’s everyone’s experience with the 2 different types? Let’s see them!!!
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Different palm suggestions for Houston 1 2
by Keys6505- 2 followers
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Hi all, I'm new to the site and new to palms in general and was hoping that some of you would lend your expertise. I recently moved from NJ to TX and have a lot of interest in boosting my new palm collection. I live in League City which is about halfway between Houston and Galveston. I'm rated 9a but I averaged out the lowest temp in League City each winter over the last 10 winters (based on available online data) and I got 29.5 degrees which would be closer to a high 9b if I'm not mistaken(?). The lowest temp recorded here over that span was 20.3. My first order of business when I arrived was completely re-doing my yard with a pool and all new landscaping so I jam…
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Diminutive palms
by Keys6505- 9 replies
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Since I'm running out of space for full-sized trees in my yard my interest has been slowly turning to smaller species that I can use to fill in the gaps. There's the obvious S. Minors, chamaedorea, etc but I'm hoping someone could recommend some more obscure small palms that may be z9 hardy, even if it's a slight zone push. I just ordered seeds for Phoenix Acaulis which fits the undersized bill, but can't find much info online regarding proven hardiness. I have been searching for Brahea Decumbens but the only one I can find for sale is at Jungle Music and it's $145 for a 3gal. I'm hoping I can find one a little cheaper as I don't know for sure if they'll like the humi…
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Discoloration in Queen Palm Fronds
by Pee Dee Palms- 2 followers
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So I noticed there was some slight discoloration in my queen palm's fronds. Anyone know what this is? My guess is a deficiency or the light intake this palm was getting.
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Disposable (?) Palm
by Manalto- 2 followers
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Years ago, I was at somebody's house in Mobile who had outside their dining room window a fan palm that functioned well as a privacy screen from neighbors when we sat at the table for dinner and conversation. It filled the window from top to bottom, so it must have been about 12 ft tall and close enough to the house that the fronds brushed gently against the screen. I liked the visual effect and the way it allowed balmy breezes into the room. I assume that, eventually, the palm got too big for its spot up against the house so that's why I called this thread "disposable." But maybe it doesn't have to be... Can you recommend a palm that's adapted to 8b Gulf Coast condi…
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Distance Between Sabals
by ahosey01- 12 replies
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Buying three Sabal uresana from @TexasColdHardyPalms and I want to plant them as close as possible in my back yard in a particular area. However - these things get giant crowns. How close can I plant them?
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Distribution of some Butia sp in Brazil.
by Alberto- 2 replies
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Butia species occur in Brazil in the Southern Region( Rio Grande do Sul, Santa Catarina and Paraná) , Southeastern Region ( occurring in the states of São Paulo and Minas Gerais), Central Brazil: Mato Grosso do Sul, Mato Grosso and Goiás) and Butia capitata in the st. of Bahia (Northeastern Region) Climates varies from subtropical with near frost-free coastal regions in South and subtropical with some frigid / cool winternights on the tablemountains in the south, to a tropical climate at diverse altitudes in the other more northern regions. It is safe to say that Butia eriospatha is originated from the coldest regions on the tablelands of the states Paraná, Santa Catari…
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Yahooey, I can post. So between when I registered and today, I wore the search function pretty thin. I found this link which was very helpful. I confidently bulldozed what had become a misplaced needle out of the ground and ended up with a dozen new needles from it. (First pic and yes those are the bottoms of 1 gallon milk cartons repurposed for the needles.) During the 40 days and 40 nights of rain we had here in North Texas I ventured into a nursery and found 2 containerized saw palmettos at a very sweet price. Pretty much they are doing their best to grow out of the pot. I can plant them the way they are but if it is possible I would like to salvage a few…
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Do Butia x Jubaea produce butia fruit or coquito nuts? I assume it's most likely hybrid fruit but there is variation with hybrid palms so I don't know.
by EastCanadaTropicals- 0 replies
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I'm in zone 5b, near 6a and I want to grow the butia x Jubaea hybrid because they are hardier, faster, and more tropical looking than a butia, but I still wanna make butia jelly or eat coquito nuts. I will use heavy protection it's obviously the only way they have any chance of producing fruit out here. I'll even put extra protection in the leaves.
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Do Florida Grown Palms Do Well In The Carolinas?
by PalmTreeDude- 1 follower
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Since a lot of palms are grown in Florida and shipped up north, do palms grown in Florida do well in the Carolinas? For example, if a palm (let's say Butia, that has experience nothing below 30 degrees F) is shipped from Florida to somewhere like Myrtle Beach, will it end up burning in the winters?
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Do I Buy S. Minor 'McCurtian' or a "Normal" S. Minor?
by PalmTreeDude- 7 replies
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I was originally planning on ordering some Sabal minor 'McCurtian' to plant here soon, but, I have read that Sabal minor 'McCurtian'defoliate quicker than other Sabal minor ecotypes. I am on the boarder of zone 7a/7b in Virginia, so wouldn't any Sabal minor be "bulletproof" here?
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Back in March, I ordered and planted three 5 gallon trachycarpus novas on the south side of my house. I planted them early in order to give them the most time possible to establish their roots before their first winter. They're each about 3.5' tall. I'm just wondering if I should provide them with any protection since this will be their first winter in the ground. I'm in Raleigh, NC, which is on the zone 7b side of zone 8a. Anyone have advice?
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