COLD HARDY PALMS
Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.
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Comparing Growth Rates of Various Sabals 1 2
by Scot from SC- 4 followers
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I hope that this topic has not been exhausted in some thread that I missed. In addition, I know that location and amount of rain/water, among other factors, affect growth rates. We all know that Sabals love heat, and most would agree that without necessary summer heat, even in an area with milder winters, Sabals can decline or stall out so to speak. Let's assume that the growth rates are based on most of the zone 8 and up areas of the southern United States. I would love to see data from other areas, but I have to go with what I know. My question is, how would you rank popular Sabals in terms of speed of growth. I know the old adage that "The first year they s…
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Sabal Palms in North Texas. The palms to the left are Sabal mexicana. Native to the Rio Grande valley and recent arrivals from South Texas. To the right are Sabal palmetto with dramatically shorter petioles. They were delivered from Florida, where they are native. .
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Complete list of “Bullet Proof” Palms? 1 2
by Dwarf Fan- 2 followers
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This list was made by Papay, it definitely seems like one of the more comprehensive lists I have found so far to date, does anyone have a better list? Also, if anything is missing please feel free to add more Palms no matter how obscure.
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Comprehensive Hardiness List 1 2
by Mauna Kea Cloudforest- 2 followers
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This new forum split is confusing, but since this is about hardiness, i will post it here even though this doesn't qualify as "hardy" by the measure that palms grow natively here. Has anyone seen this list of hardiness results? It has quite a number of surprises, some rather tropical palms turn out to be pretty hardy. Now hardy for me means it can take some dips into the upper 20's, i.e. -2C at most in the open before I see any damage. This list was compiled by a nursery in Cornwall, UK, and while it's mild down there, i expect most of those specimens were small. http://www.trebrown.com/documents/climate/palmhardinesstrials.php Some of this information is hig…
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Confusing Rot Near Growth Point of Queen Palm
by Pee Dee Palms- 1 follower
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So I just checked out how all my plants were doing and I noticed this weird darkish brown rot on the newest frond of my Queen Palm. The whole frond is nice looking and the palm appears healthy but right at the bottom of the frond that is coming out there is this weird rot. I tugged on the spear pretty good but it isn't budging at all. Anyone know what this is? I sprayed it with some copper fungicide so hopefully that helps.
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Container Ranch Dypsis?
by Funkthulhu- 9 replies
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I've got a small Lutey I picked up at Lowe's last year (at least that's what it says on the label, I'm dubious). But I keep seeing all these fabulous species you southern-types are flaunting and I'm jealous. What would be some unique and/or beautiful examples of the Dypsis clan that would look good in an indoor setting. Adult height can be more than 8 feet if it's a slow grower, I can always donate to one of the indoor gardens in 5 or 10 years. For that matter, what funky-cool indoor palms of any genus would you suggest to catch the eye?
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What would you say is the minimum temperature these palms would tolerate in a container? Palms are moderate in size (6-8 feet). The duration would be for a single overnight. Phoenix canariensis Butia/Pindo Washingtonia robusta Thanks in advance.
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https://youtu.be/7Oy2nx9F-F8 Aggie Memorial Stadium in Las Cruces New Mexico zone 8a the end zone use to have some Washingtonians planted, then they switched them to trachy’s, then those were removed and they now have European fan palms installed.
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Cool-Hardy Palms
by SoulofthePlace- 1 follower
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In addition to cold-hardy palms, there should also be a category for cool-hardy palms. Cold hardy means palms that can handle below 33F or +1C but cool hardy palms should be able to handle 35F (+2C) to 70F (+21C) or rather anything below 70s for extended periods of time or year-round and grow without any heat, where heat or hot could be considered as 30C (86F) and above. There are many climates such as cool oceanic and tropical highland places plenty around the world where it never gets any frost nor hot weather either. Bogota, Azores, Antsirabe, SF Bay, Lord Howe Island, New Zealand etc. just to name very few have those kind of climates.
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copernicia alba
by sonoranfans- 2 followers
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About two years ago ken Johnson stopped by with a delivery. He brought with him an extra palm, copernicia alba. It was a sad looking palm that ken said had been sitting in a container too long. I was concerned that it might not be so easy to make it happy. But ken said it would not be a problem as these are the easiest copernicias to grow. So I put it in the ground sept 2011, and the first year it grew a few elongated fronds, but the second summer it just started launching spears and is still doing so in october. You can see the first years growth is near horizontal and the second years growth obviously upright. Here are the before and after pics sept 2011 and sep…
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Copernicia Alba in St Augustine, FL
by Almisa- 2 followers
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Pic #1 - first installed in August 2022 Pic#2 - early November so far so good.
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Copernicia Baileyana
by Cape Garrett- 5 replies
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For all you Copernicia fans. I purchased this 2 years ago and just stepped it up. IS this a Bailey's palm.? That's how I purchased it. Thanks for any input. Having a hard time posting pics. Just zoom in if needed.
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Copernicia vs Livistona
by topwater- 1 follower
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Hi, I'm hoping for some advice about Copernicia prunifera and Livistona saribus for the upper TX coast. I'm in zone 9b with very hot summers and short, cold winters with an occasional freeze. They will be going to two locations, both are in full sun and one is exposed to winter salt spray and very high winds. I have no experience with either Thanks
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Copper Fungicide
by barnabus- 3 replies
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Is it ok to use copper fungicide in the fall to prevent any problems of spear rot or to keep my palms heathly? Ive had a terrible time overall on some palms and as winter approaches I'm looking to get then in good shape for the cold months. Does it hurt?
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Copper Fungicides, Daconil and anti-desiccants
by McClell.Col829- 8 replies
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Can somebody please help me out, I am currently growing W. Filiferas, T. fortunei, R. Hystrix, C. Humilis and a couple butias. I lost my biggest W. Filifera this last winter due to fungal infection, I’m wondering what do you use? Daconil or Copper Fungicides? Also what brand of Anti-dessicants if any do you use? Any input will be greatly appreciated. thank you C
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cordyline australis propagation -help!
by Donatasgem- 0 replies
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Hi all!! I need some help! Ive just been given a new shoot when on holiday but now dont know how to propogate it! I put it in some soil now! Attached a photo of it, it was in the water as i was not sure whether it needs water!! Help!
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Corpus Christi Palmageddon
by ahosey01- 1 follower
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Was looking at street view in Corpus Christi (long story) and saw this. I thought Corpus got cold enough to kill off all the tropical stuff. Clearly a Bismarck survived. How cold did it actually get there?
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Correct procedure for wrapping a palm tree
by Palmfarmer- 3 replies
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Is the following method correct and is there room for improvements: Stuff hay at the growing point, then tie up the fronds. Wrap it in 4 layers of burlap followed by a strip of incandescent christmas lights. Lastly a couple layers of frost cloth and a plastic bag to keep it dry and protect it from wind more.
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Could a queen palm grow in Julian, Ca
by Aidandp- 8 replies
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Just wondering, according to plantmaps it is zone 8b-9a
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Could Dypsis decipiens be the only Crownshafted Palm for Zone 9a 1 2
by Alicehunter2000- 2 followers
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Could Dypsis decipiens be the only reliable crownshafted palm for zone 9a. This is the conclusion that I am starting to draw as my quest for a hardy crownshafted palm continues. Another contender would be the trunking form of C. radicalis, but this palm is very dainty and doesn't compare to D. decipiens IMO. In California and other Meditteranian climates I guess there might be something else that can take temps into the low 20's, but in more sub-tropical climates I think D. decipiens might be all we got. Any thoughts concerning hardy crownshafts that can take 20 degrees F. (-6.67 C.) as an ultimate brief low?
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Could I Plant These Now?
by PalmTreeDude- 16 replies
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So I have these Sabal minor, and this weekend is going to be in the 70s and not get too cold, even at night. But over the week the highs are in the mid to high 50s and the lowest low is 30 (one night). Would I be rushing these or do you think they world be ok to be planted now? Would they be able to handle a frost freshly planted?
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Could my Sylvestris be a hybrid?
by DAVEinMB- 11 replies
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I bought this palm last year, it was labeled as sylvestris and was in pretty rough shape so there was really no crown to speak of. As it gets healthier I'm wondering if it was mislabeled. I know the general rule of thumb is pretty much all Phoenix are hybridized to some extent but thought I'd see what you guys thought. First pic is when I got it and the other 3 are from this afternoon.
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Could Rocks help me make a better microclimate?
by Palmfarmer- 3 replies
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I got fairly warm temps in the daytime in winter 25c more or less but several nights in 0c. Someone on this forum once recommended i put some rocks around my Royal palm since i was told soil tempratures at night is probably the most important for growth. I am thinking if there is truth to this I could spread black lava rocks all around my yard and some bigger rocks around the palms also to hopefully be able to make some of my palms grow in winter by raising the soil temprature at night in the winter. What you guys think? Sorry for rambling
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so i put my 3 gallon sabal minor outside a few days ago, and i noticed that one ofbthe newest fronds kind of folded up, and some of the other fronds exept the new growth have brown tips. is that transplant shock?
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Couldn’t help but share
by zimm- 1 follower
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Isn’t she beautiful?