COLD HARDY PALMS
Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.
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Palms for an 8B food forest
by Brian F. Austin- 24 replies
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What would be some good edible palms to plant in a Texas zone 8b food forest? I can only think of maybe Phoenix Dactylifera and Butia Captita? Any other non-palm trees that come to mind? I'm planning on growing from seed... loquats, pecans, peaches. And lots of fig trees from cuttings.
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Washingtonia in zone 7a with just wrapping?
by siege2050- 24 replies
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I originally started some Washingtonia Filibusta seeds to grow in containers (Still waiting on Filifera to germinate). But after seeing how fast they are growing for me, and looking around the web, is it possible to protect a Washingtonia with just wrapping the trunks heavily in a zone 7a down to 0F? I am not too crazy about making mini greenhouses so would prefer to wrap. If so what kind of wrapping, would heat tape be necessary on the coldest nights with a thermostat? Also if I remove all the fronds, will new ones grow back in time to make the palm look okay each year? What is the cold hardiness for Filibusta as compared to Robusta, and Filifera and is it increased a lo…
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My little slice of heaven, and some palms too.
by Chad king NC- 1 follower
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Common Palms
by _Keith- 2 followers
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Your thoughts on other's thoughts about your cold hardy palms.
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Blue Pindo palm question
by sashaeffer- 1 follower
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Is the Blue version of this palm a sub species? of Pindo or are they a crap shoot as far if they can turn blue or not. Did my searches here and in the web in general. Even read Phil's article about Pindos and no real explanation of why some are green and others blue.
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Sabal minor 'Arkansas' Seedling
by PalmTreeDude- 23 replies
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So I ordered these Sabal minor seeds a long time ago and used the baggy method. The only thing was the area they were in was cool, so only one of the 5 seeds germinated so far. The ones that did not were put into a smaller community pot outside so they will be warm and hopefully I get a few more to germinate. Anyone have any Sabal minor 'Arkansas' they can share? Pictures?
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A few Sabal minors
by teddytn- 3 followers
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These are from seeds I got from RPS. Seedlings overwinter in ground here no problem. This prevents me from having to mess with heat mats and keep more community pots inside this winter. Next spring/ summer plan to pot these up. Going to plant another bed in spring with all the seeds I harvest this year as well. Filled the bed with organic raised bed bagged soil. Topped with organic composted humus as a top cover/ mulch on top of the seeds. Watered the bed everyday and viola.
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Planting zone 8 palms in 6a?
by PashkaTLT- 1 follower
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Hello guys, I (will) have these zone 8 palms and I'd like your opinion if it's a bad idea to plant them in my zone 6a (very close to 6b): - Pindo Palm - European Fan Palm - Sago Palm - Mexican Fan Palm (some say it's zone 9, but I've seen it planted and growing well even in Canada) - Saw Palmetto I'm willing to protect them in winter, but if it will be too difficult/too long, then I may leave them potted.
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So ... noticed this about 4 days ago. Palm was next to the kids trampoline. It was near 100 a week or so ago and the kids aimed the sprinkler at the trampoline to cool off. I noticed two fronds look folded up and upon further inspection and a good hard yank out came not one but two spears. Well it also soaked this palm for a couple hours resulting in spear pull . I soaked it in H2O2 and it bubbled like crazy. Wondering if I should just start surgery on this one.. I put a stick down the hole with a sharply park on it and marked a petiole but haven’t noticed movement. I soaked up all the old H2O2 so it would dry .... should I hold out on this one?
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Anyone growing any tender palms this way…I’m thinking of trying two of my tender palms a Dypsis Boronii , and Chamaedorea plumosa. Love to know if anyone has this type of set up and what palms or plants are you trying? Mine will be heated with thermocube 45/35F, heater will be oil base. Thanks!
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Nice Trachycarpus and Butia in upstate SC
by Brad Mondel- 1 follower
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This Trachycarpus is HUGE and survived an extremely cold winter this year (14F). The Butia survived also but has some damage.
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Phoenix Canariensis is cold tolerant however it’s fruit is too astringent and not edible. Is it possible to use pollen from male medjool tree to pollinate female phoenix canariensis? 1- Will it result in making a hybrid date fruit which is edible, with more flesh and sweet in taste? 2- Has anyone seen any such example? anything in the literature, has it been tried in date orchards or in the wild? 3- Are there any pictures of such a hybrid fruit, details about the quality of such a fruit, taste, size, etc? Please share your experience.
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My Brahea's
by Jubaea_James760- 1 follower
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Brahea's are great palms, especially in temperate climates! Brahea Edulis is one, despite where it comes from it's extremely cold hardy! I would rate it as hardy as Washingtonia Robusta if not a little more hardy in my area. These two been in the ground for almost 3 years now...
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Sago palms in North Carolina?
by happy1892- 1 follower
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Hello. My name is Nathaniel. I found some cycads that look like Sago palms (Cycas revoluta) here in Granville County, NC. I am not sure if they are Cycas revoluta because there are other Cycas species from the mountains in southern China that look similar, that are even more cold hardy than Cycas revoluta (http://www.cycadpalm.com/cold-tolerant-cycads--the--short-list-.html). I love cycads, and would like to raise some here in North Carolina. Also, would anyone know whether Zamia floridana (Florida Coontie) cycad would survive here in North Carolina? Here it says they survive down to 7F: https://seedrack.com/10.html I suspect the str…
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Sabal Birmingham Move
by ahosey01- 1 follower
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I have a Sabal 'Birmingham' planted in my flood irrigated lawn that doesn't like something about its planting spot. It's in full morning sun for around 6 hours, but is protected by the house to the west so doesn't get roasted by the hottest part of the day. It gets a ton of water and I use a slow release fertilizer when the plants around it break buds in the spring and then once again in late summer. I have also supplemented once with chelated iron once a year in case the soil is just too alkaline and the nutrients are locked up. The damn thing has done nothing at all in the two years I've had it. I have heard from other PTers that the recipe is heat, water and …
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Largest palm you protect?
by jfrye01@live.com- 23 replies
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It's nearing that time of year for those of us up north or inland: first freeze is fast upon us. I'm wondering, what is the largest palm YOU protect?? Mine will probably be my 5' Sabal mexicana, followed by my 4' Butia...I talked to a friend in the north Dallas suburbs who was talking about protecting his 30' Washingtonia robusta during VERY cold spells...Apparently, he wraps the trunk with lights and cloth...
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Sable palmetto vs Sable mexicana
by topwater- 2 followers
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Is there any easy way to differentiate Sable palmetto from Sable mexicana? Here in Texas, most nurserys have both and they are widely used in commercial landscaping, not so much in residential situations.
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Pictures of Trachycarpus ‘Bulgaria’
by JDH23- 1 follower
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Hello all, Ive recently fell down the rabbit hole of exploring/learning about Trachycarpus ‘Bulgaria’. From what I’ve looked into, there are allegedly 4 original palms that were planted at the history museum in the city of Plovdiv. Out of curiosity I tried to see what the palms look like, however, for the life of me I cannot find a picture of any of the palms at the museum. I’ve seen pictures/videos of presumably Trachycarpus ‘Bulgaria’ palms planted in areas of Bulgaria, but I have not seen a picture of the original 4 plants at the museum. Additionally, I’ve seen people claim to have seen these 4 plants both in person and in photos, so this suggests to me there are …
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As you probably know, we had a crazy cold wave in December 2022, and the needle palms and dwarf palmettos in my state fared just fine with no protection. Dad and I entertained rebuilding our pond dam taller downhill to create a small lake before refilling it. (The steel basin collecting some water from our upper Shale Falls broke.) Nonetheless, I fear deep down the rebuilt dam being vulnerable to erosion, especially initially. I know most trees and shrubs grow woody roots extending far out, which can allow more water to seep through, and grass, fern, clover or wildflower roots aren't likely to extend deep enough. I got one last idea: dwarf palmettos. Dwarf palmettos …
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My palms zone 8a (northern France)
by ghostorchid77- 1 follower
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I go here very often but I never posted. Then I start and present you my little collection and atmosphere of my garden which is very young. I'm here since 2008, the land was not much raised. It is quite windy. Regarding climate, summer is short enough, the seasons of spring and autumn long enough in winter and against a slightly cooler period fall and spring. I'm in a degraded oceanic climate (equivalence zone 8a). 1650 hours of sunshine per year. Gingers (Hedychium, Roscoea auriculata, Colocasia Pink China, Musa Basjoo) Hedychium yunnanense (august) Sabal palmetto (plantation 2012)
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Butia X Jubaea - Info + Photos
by Peachs- 1 follower
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I want to plant one of them. How thick can the trunk be? I am concerned about the thickness of the trunk, that it may be too thick for the area where I plan to plant it. How fast can it grow? I live in zone 8b, with little rainfall. There is not much information on the forum about this hybrid. Thank you so much!
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USDA Cold Hardiness off by a zone?
by Dimovi- 2 followers
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My understanding is that USDA calculates cold hardiness by taking the lowest temperature each year over 30 years and averaging them, but when I made a spreadsheet for Austin, TX (middle of 8b) my calculations for 2012 put us in the middle of 9a, and in 2020 we are at 23.7F Is that not the case? I still find the system a bit odd as plants don't care about averages and mostly care about extreme lows, so I did also calculate the minimum for last 30 years. Here is the spreadsheet if anyone cares to try with your weather data. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1riGDrUzzmqQONdHkVbbyIfNi65unMh4T/view?usp=sharing
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Sabal Louisiana thriving in Wichita
by jfrye01@live.com- 23 replies
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Hello, fellow palm nuts! Hope everyone has thawed nicely. I had the chance to stop by and check out my favorite palmy place around here a couple days ago, and was able to grab some pictures for everyone. During December's polar plunge, Wichita bottomed out around -2F at the airport. Closer to 0F downtown, however, we were below freezing for at least 48 hours. These Sabals have taken this in stride. One of these was planted by a good friend of mine many years ago, the rest have volunteered. A true testament to the hardiness of Sabal Louisiana and the Sabal genus as a whole. Enjoy!
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My 6 year coconut tree in Houston
by Coconut Jared- 1 follower
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There are not many people keeping coconut trees in Houston, so I would like to share mine. I bought 6 coconut trees in the summer of 2018. They were just sprouted coconuts back then. I live in Pearland Texas, inside Houston city limits. Of the 6 coconut trees, 2 live today. The 4 that died were in pots. 1 of the living ones is in a pot and is still quite small. But I will focus on the one that is in the ground. The attached pictures were taken this year during the freeze that got into the mid teens. The tree actually took 12 hours of 28-32 degree weather before I could get to it. After that it was wrapped up as you can see with a 1500 watt infrared heater pointed…
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Brahea edulis-Cold Hardy?
by SM458- 23 replies
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Is Brahea edulis cold hardy? My area is 8A. My area grows Washingtonia palms, Canary Palm, Date Palm, Mediterranean Fan Palm just fine. I’ve seen only one armata grown here. I think people here are not attracted to the desert look of Amarta though.